So here is the deal.
2 story House 4bedrooms 2.5 bath was built in 1935. Original well is hand dug. At some point a well pipe was installed and the area was filled in.
The current setup is a Goulds JN05 jet pump w/ a deep well conversion. I also have an updated 40gal Welltrol pres. tank.
Problems are PH is 5.6 and I have already had to replace some expensive fixtures. Pressure is terrible no way I can add a neutralizer w/ jetpump setup. In addition some times the pump sings like when you run your finger around the rim of a crystal wine glass. (haven't tried that since I was a kid and nearly got the family kicked out of a restaurant when the band found out I was the src of the feedback)
So. I am looking to upgrade before I end up in an emergency situation. I have done a a lot of reading here and else where. So I canned the VS Grundfos system, which was recommended by a local plumber I know. I have been told so many things by so many people it makes my head spin.
Point - Counterpoint
Always get a 3 wire w/ control box - there is no way to diag this setup. control boxes are for 3hp+.
Grundfos VS is great- they fail.
Goulds is the standard - they are terrible now, Franklin motor is important pump maker not so much
your well at 90' max will support a 18GS10 - this pump will cave your well in. (yes I bought the pump and it's for sale. w/ control box-unused)
I estimate my well is max 90'. Determining the exact depth and rate of my well could end the life of my current pump - putting me in the position of an emergency.
Here is my test - opened utility sink hot & cold (near pump) waited for pump to kick on. Pump kicked on at 20psi maintained 24psi and filled a 5gal bucket in 50seconds@24psi. Pump just barely pumps up to 40psi when system is closed off.
I need an acid neutralizer and will probably need a water softener. I didn't get the hardness number only that it was borderline. With a ph of 5.6 I am guessing I will be dissolving a lot of solids to get balance. The bath towels already as hard as rocks after a couple years.
I am considering the following equip:
Franklin pump 7FA07S4-3W230 7gal 3/4hp - Thinking 3/4hp will give me the pres on the other side of the equip.
Fleck 12" X 48" 3 Cu. ft. pH Neutralizer with Fleck 7000 Digital Control Valve. Includes all media, Noryl Bypass,
Fleck 7000 Softener (haven't settled on the grains)
I have a Franklin pumptec-plus I believe I need this w/ the shallow well to protect against dry run.
I like the idea of the CSV, but I am not sure I need one. I am also not sure what that means for the pres. tank. do I get to use a 2-3gal and ditch the 40gal?
I calculated my dynamic head to my furthest fixture at 265.
90' 1" Well
30' 1", 90deg (2)
60' 3/4", ball valves (2), 90deg (4)
5' 1/2"
neutralizer
softener
csv
This is w/o the water cond. equip. No one seems to be able to tell me what the friction loss at 7GPM / 50psi is through the equip. and I don't know enough to figure our how the 15psi drop I was given for the neutralizer translates. Is it a steady 15psi at all rates? That doesn’t seem right.
That is my situation. I am looking for any suggestions / advice on my proposed upgrade based on experience.
Oh, target 5gpm-6gpm @ 50psi
I hope I gave enough info and not too much.
2 story House 4bedrooms 2.5 bath was built in 1935. Original well is hand dug. At some point a well pipe was installed and the area was filled in.
The current setup is a Goulds JN05 jet pump w/ a deep well conversion. I also have an updated 40gal Welltrol pres. tank.
Problems are PH is 5.6 and I have already had to replace some expensive fixtures. Pressure is terrible no way I can add a neutralizer w/ jetpump setup. In addition some times the pump sings like when you run your finger around the rim of a crystal wine glass. (haven't tried that since I was a kid and nearly got the family kicked out of a restaurant when the band found out I was the src of the feedback)
So. I am looking to upgrade before I end up in an emergency situation. I have done a a lot of reading here and else where. So I canned the VS Grundfos system, which was recommended by a local plumber I know. I have been told so many things by so many people it makes my head spin.
Point - Counterpoint
Always get a 3 wire w/ control box - there is no way to diag this setup. control boxes are for 3hp+.
Grundfos VS is great- they fail.
Goulds is the standard - they are terrible now, Franklin motor is important pump maker not so much
your well at 90' max will support a 18GS10 - this pump will cave your well in. (yes I bought the pump and it's for sale. w/ control box-unused)
I estimate my well is max 90'. Determining the exact depth and rate of my well could end the life of my current pump - putting me in the position of an emergency.
Here is my test - opened utility sink hot & cold (near pump) waited for pump to kick on. Pump kicked on at 20psi maintained 24psi and filled a 5gal bucket in 50seconds@24psi. Pump just barely pumps up to 40psi when system is closed off.
I need an acid neutralizer and will probably need a water softener. I didn't get the hardness number only that it was borderline. With a ph of 5.6 I am guessing I will be dissolving a lot of solids to get balance. The bath towels already as hard as rocks after a couple years.
I am considering the following equip:
Franklin pump 7FA07S4-3W230 7gal 3/4hp - Thinking 3/4hp will give me the pres on the other side of the equip.
Fleck 12" X 48" 3 Cu. ft. pH Neutralizer with Fleck 7000 Digital Control Valve. Includes all media, Noryl Bypass,
Fleck 7000 Softener (haven't settled on the grains)
I have a Franklin pumptec-plus I believe I need this w/ the shallow well to protect against dry run.
I like the idea of the CSV, but I am not sure I need one. I am also not sure what that means for the pres. tank. do I get to use a 2-3gal and ditch the 40gal?
I calculated my dynamic head to my furthest fixture at 265.
90' 1" Well
30' 1", 90deg (2)
60' 3/4", ball valves (2), 90deg (4)
5' 1/2"
neutralizer
softener
csv
This is w/o the water cond. equip. No one seems to be able to tell me what the friction loss at 7GPM / 50psi is through the equip. and I don't know enough to figure our how the 15psi drop I was given for the neutralizer translates. Is it a steady 15psi at all rates? That doesn’t seem right.
That is my situation. I am looking for any suggestions / advice on my proposed upgrade based on experience.
Oh, target 5gpm-6gpm @ 50psi
I hope I gave enough info and not too much.
