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    Default Vortens Vienna 10" toilet

    Is the Vortens Vienna a good toilet?
    or one I should avoid?

    I am looking for a 10" rough in toilet.

    http://www.vortens.com/files/specifi.../3208-3464.pdf
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    This brand is noted in Terry's Report on Low Flow Toilets, but there is no data. However, you might want to look into the Toto Guinevere. This looks to be an excellent choice. Sorry I can't give you any opinions on the Vortens Vienna. I can say this is a brand that I do not recall ever being discussed on this forum, so that makes me a bit skeptical.

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    I can kindof help you here... I hear this toilet is really powerful
    here is a flush off
    very random; but the Vorton did the best out of the competition....

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    Very good job on the video.

    We don't even bother selling the Toto Carosoe, though I did use one in my hotel room at Whistler/Blackcomb and it seemed to work fine. The trapway on those is 1-7/8", a bit on the small side.

    We sell the Drake, which has a 2-1/8" trapway with long sweeps.

    The Cimarron plugged quite a bit when I had it installed in my home.

    The Mansfield Alto in my daughters home, they plugged all three the first day they moved into their new home.

    The Kohler Wellworth is a common builder grade toilet that gets replaced.

    It's nice that the Vortens could flush balls. I've seen many toilets that can, but have problems with paper and other objects.

    Many trapways will bounce a ball down the trapway, and catch paper.
    And that's why I prefer to use the bowl in the home before writing about it. It's the only real way to test them. Nobody flushes balls away.

    I did have the Vortens pressure assist installed for a while with the Flushmate 1.1 gallon flush. The cartridge had a hard time sealing, so I would turn it off between uses. It was bad out of the box.

    It's too bad they didn't test any good toilets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Very good job on the video.

    We don't even bother selling the Toto Carosoe, though I did use one in my hotel room at Whistler/Blackcomb and it seemed to work fine. The trapway on those is 1-7/8", a bit on the small side.

    The Cimarron plugged quite a bit when I had it installed in my home.

    The Mansfield Alto in my daughters home, they plugged all three the first day they moved into their new home.

    The Kohler Wellworth is a common builder grade toilet that gets replaced.

    It's nice that the Vortens could flush balls. I've seen many toilets that can, but have problems with paper and other objects.

    Many trapways will bounce a ball down the trapway, and catch paper.
    And that's why I prefer to use the bowl in the home, it's real.

    I did have the Vortens pressure assist installed for a while with the Flushmate 1.1 gallon flush. The cartridge had a hard time sealing, so I would turn it off between uses. It was bad out of the box.

    It's too bad they didn't test any good toilets.
    yeah, i just thought about the Toilet paper situation.. They should have put the Toto Drake in the line up =P Its amazing what you can find on youtube lol

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    Default Western commodes

    one commode that you don't hear about and is a great flushing commode is the" WESTERN" BRAND COMMODE. I'm a 19yr long plumber that does residential repairs and have replaced many commodes with the "Western" . Customers are always pleased with them and always call for the other commode in the home to be changed out after seeing that it does perform great.

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    Take a close look at the trapway molded into the porcelain, especially at the point where it turns and goes down the flange to the drain...it looks like it makes a very sharp bend there. Hard to tell for sure. Sharp bends slow things down, and that can cause clogs, especially if you flush a real log!
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    Will the Vortens Hurricane do better?
    Vortens' own words:
    2-1/8" Fully Glazed Trapway
    High-Eff iciency Toilet (HET) with
    Powerful 1.28 gpf / 4.8 lpf Flush
    Powered by the 3" HydroSurgeTM
    Flushing System
    Flushes 1,000 grams of solids per
    MaP test
    8" x 7" Water Surface
    Extra-Large Footprint
    Ideal HeightTM A.D.A. Compliant –
    1 6-1/2" High
    Lifetime Warranty on
    Vitreous China
    High-Gloss Vitreous China –
    Durable, Nonporous

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    The MAP test flushes plastic wrapped paste...not the same thing as the 'real' stuff, so getting a huge value is easy, plus the smooth plastic wrapped stuff doesn't catch on sharp edges or get slowed down like the real stuff, either. So, hard to say whether this is better or not.
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    I still think the Vortens is okay. I mean, it isn't a builder grade product, but it's not a commercial grade one either. Toto now makes a 10" Drake which is the best idea.

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    Default Vortens toilets

    Thank you for the kind comments about our video.

    In our 40+ years of residential plumbing in Arizona, we have been pleased with the performance of the Vorten water closet, installing the Vienna model for the last 6+ years in residential and commercial applications. We have installed thousands of these toilets and our call back for service is close to zero. This, of course, does not include various objects that were never meant to be flushed (such as toilet paper holders or small toys).

    Having used many makes and models of water closets in the construction of over 32,000 new homes, the Vortens water closet has had the fewest customer service issues.

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