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    Quote Originally Posted by 220/221 View Post
    IMO means "In my opinion"......right?

    I can offer an explanation but it's not really up for debate because it is simply my opinion.
    I know it is your opinion. I was just wondering what you were basing this on. That's all.



    Quote Originally Posted by 220/221 View Post
    A lot of places in the world have seriously substandard electrical systems,
    I'm not talking about the rest of the world. I am talking about the MAJORITY of OUR country.
    Answers based on the 2008 & 2011 NEC. If you're on the '14 already I feel sorry for you.

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    I am talking about the MAJORITY of OUR country.

    Bah!

    Don't make me look up statistics but I will wager that a majority of current installations are not done hillbilly style

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    Well, I'd be curious to know just how many areas REQUIRE an outside disconnect. I don't think it's many.
    Answers based on the 2008 & 2011 NEC. If you're on the '14 already I feel sorry for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    Well, I'd be curious to know just how many areas REQUIRE an outside disconnect. I don't think it's many.

    The NEC doesnt require it. Most places adopt the NEC in this country.
    I would also be curious how many if any really require it. If they do it would be nice to see it in writing ( their statutes )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    Well, I'd be curious to know just how many areas REQUIRE an outside disconnect. I don't think it's many.
    All over the great state of GA!
    In the places I have worked anyway!
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    The meter is NEVER a disconnect point, and here, if you were to break the meter seal to remove it, you would be eligible for a $10,000 fine. The disconnect, whatever type it is, MUST be adjacent to the meter with the minimum distance between it and the meter. Here we usually use a combination meter socket and circuit breaker panel with a main breaker. But if the situation requires it, then separate devices are used, but the main breaker's position never changes.

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    I actually meant as a disconnect for the POCO - at least around here
    Around here nothing is outside except the meter
    And in some really old houses the meters used to be inside

    You pull a meter base out, isn't there some chance of arcing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Dave View Post
    I actually meant as a disconnect for the POCO - at least around here
    Around here nothing is outside except the meter
    And in some really old houses the meters used to be inside

    You pull a meter base out, isn't there some chance of arcing?
    I have a main breaker outside next to the meter. House was built in early 1990s.

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    I believe this has to do with my main panel being a good 20 plus feet from the outside service...
    Last edited by PeteD; 02-05-2009 at 07:37 AM.

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    VI. Service Equipment - Disconnecting Means
    230.70 General. Means shall be provided to disconnect all
    conductors in a building or other structure from the serviceentrance
    conductors.
    (A) Location. The· service disconnecting means shall be
    installed in accordance with 230.70(A)(l), (A)(2), and
    (A)(3).
    (1) Readily Accessible Location. The service disconnecting
    means shall be installed at a readily accessible location
    either outside of a building or structure or inside nearest the
    point of entrance of the service conductors.
    (2) Bathrooms. Service disconnecting means shall not be
    installed in bathrooms.
    (3) Remote Control. Where a remote control device(s) is
    used to actuate the service disconnecting means, the service
    disconnecting means shall be located in accordance with
    230.70(A)(1).
    (D) Marknng. Each service disconnect shall be permanently
    marked to identify it as a service disconnect.
    (C) Suitable for Use. Each service disconnecting means
    shall be suitable for the prevailing conditions. Service
    equipment installed in hazardous (classified) locations shall
    comply with the requirements of Articles 500 through 517

    This is from the 2008 NEC

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    Ah, OK - mine is right inside close to where the service enters
    Just enough room for a 90 elbow pointing down
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    Here, I believe it is a power company requirement and they will not set the meter without it, but it would not have gotten to the meter setting stage anyway if it were not there.

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    You pull a meter base out, isn't there some chance of arcing?
    If there is a load, it will arc. The bigger the load the bigger the arc.

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    The power co can pull the disconnect at the transformer if they need to to pull the meter. No need for a disconnect at the meter for them some areas the co's may require or local code the NEC does not it can be at the closest point inside the house per the 2008 and 2005 NEC codes.

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