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    DIY Senior Member molo's Avatar
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    Default No Pigtail, Interesting Wiring,

    I noticed a method used to wire a switch and am wondering if it's safe.

    Power comes into the box and on that wire there is a 1/4" section removed. That section was secured under the switch screw and then continues on to bring power to the second switch.

    Is this safe? Should it be pigtailed?

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    I seen many electricians do this many times. Never thought much of it. But then I am no electrician.

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    I used to do it that way before I knew any better. Now I HATE that method.
    I pigtail a separate wire for each switch.
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    In the olden days of solder, it would in some cases save a splice and would save time.


    Today, not so much.

    Occaisionally on a double duplex with a single cable in, I will use this method. Just leave a little extra wire, strip a bare spot and wrap them.

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    For ganged switches it can save a lot of space, but does take more time.

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    It can also be a PITB when replacing a bad switch...

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    I would think that would be fine so long as the bare portion of wire wrapped around the screw and had a good connection. And actually this would be a better connection than a pigtail/wire nut as it would be one contiguous piece of wire...

    However, try stripping a wire "in the middle" of a run. Not very easy. And the insulation wants to spring back to where it was to begin with. I would not mess with this myself.

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    This is quite a common method seen every day in the field. As far as safety there is no problem. If you are going to change a switch wired this way you should turn the power off to the circuit. Also its a good rule to always turn a circuit off when working on one. One should never work on live circuits.

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