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    Again I think you'll need to go to a well equipped plumbing store OR do a lot of googling and see if you can pull up mechanical drawings of replacement flush valves.

    I was just googling for you, typed in "crane toilet parts" and hit a website that sells toilet parts. From there I clicked on "more flush valves" and was directed to a section that showed a LOT of replacement flush valves - including one for the Cadet 3 which I believe uses a 3" flapper. Maybe the ones with the 3" flapper, the threaded portion is larger and would properly fit your 3.5" tank opening.

    If my Toto Drake was still in the box I would have measured the opening for you.

    All that said, I've read the Cadet 3 has respectable performance, uses standard parts and is available at the big box places for a good price. You could just replace the toilet with one that has standard parts and be done with it. At some point your time is worth more than chasing around parts.

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    How's your chinese language skills?

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    Probedude,

    Yeah, I had checked the parts out on **************.com myself a few weeks back but there are no posted sizes. Thanks for mentioning the Cadet3. With that I was able to lock in on a few products to send their sales dept to see if it will work.

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    How's your chinese language skills?
    I thought it was funny (and not "random" at all...)

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    Default Crane Toilet replacement parts

    I have a Crane SureFlush toilet purchased at a major home center in early 2007.
    the toilet uses almost identical mechanical systems as the All-in-one
    The Fill Valve has a fixed tube that would run over and into the bell shaped flapper

    has anyone been able to find replacement parts? Since this company was taken over by American Standard, it seems like they have vacated major Home Centers!

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    I would consider this to be a lesson in shopping at the lower end of the price spectrum.

    I would suggest trying the opposite and find sure satisfaction.

    Toto Toilets

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    I also purchased a Crane Sure Flush toilet in late 2007. As I was then out of state on a work assignment for 18 months, I just recently found out how much trouble the fill valve on this toilet could be.

    As I still had the paperwork from the toilet, I noted that it had a 10 year warrenty on all parts. After calling the customer service telephone number (419-522-4211) and getting redirected to a couple different American Standard folks, they offered to send me a replacement fill valve. (Note warranty states that you need to have proof of original purchase date, though I wasn't even asked for that).

    While it took 2+ weeks to arrive, they sent me both a replacement fill valve and flush valve, both of which I have just finished installing... and so far they work.

    These replacement parts are nothing like the originals, with the flush valve having a more traditional flapper. They were manufactured by WDI, inc.

    Packing list from Crane/American Standard reads:
    Material # P030174000; Description: FILL VALVE - WDI B3834W-A-CRN2
    Material # P030236000; Description: Flush Valve With 279 Flapper
    Material # P030482100; Description: Tank Parts Bag WDI B839-G-CRN3

    Hope this helps someone else.

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    Default Flush valve for Crane toilet

    I can't find a flush valve for my crane toilet either. Does anyone know where to find one?

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    I fought this, too, then just called Crane. A nice lady said they had plenty in stock for $7.00 plus $8.00 shipping. Because she liked me? she offered one for
    free. When I offered to actually buy another one, she said she would send two! Ya gotta love it.

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    I had the same problem. Found out that Crane was bought out by American Standard. They have a better valve that fits!! Its a regular style valve but fits the 3 1/2" opening on the tank. Its part no. 738921-104.0070A (flush valve assy1.28GPF) You will also need the tank to bowl gasket, also American Standard. Part no. 7301021-0070A tank to bowl coupling kit #253. I bought mine from an outfit called Teters Faucet Supply in Dallas TX. (214)823-2153.....cost me about $35.00 for both parts. Hope this helps.

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    I should mention that Korky was nice enough to send me their new 5030BP Universal 3" flush valve to evaluate. It comes with various parts to make it universal for everything that has a 3" flush hole except Kohler toilets. It's big, so it comes in a nice cardboard box and includes a Korky 3" adjustable flapper. The quality of the molding and hardware is what you would expect from Korky -- very fine quality. It has an adjustable-height overflow riser that is twist-to-lock, so you don't need to saw it to the right height, and the overflow riser is oversized, so it should actually prevent an overflow in the event that you have a runaway fill valve.

    It also comes with appropriate tank-to-bowl gaskets in the box.

    As usual with Korky, the instructions are in clear, plain English, with enough detail to make sense, but stated simply so really anyone can tackle the job.

    The opening on that Crane tank looks more like 3" on the internal dimension, so I imagine that the 5030BP would fit, although one can always call 1-800-LAVELLE and the nice Korky people would tell you.



    Regarding the original post years ago, to which HJ pointed out that those "pressure" toilet fill valves aren't accurate enough to use in a toilet, I would also note that they probably don't meet code because they are fully-submerged in the tank water and thus the tank water is by necessity above the critical level on the valve; moreover, they likely do not have an effective anti-siphon capability. Yuck.
    Last edited by Terry; 03-12-2013 at 06:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neotonic View Post
    Thats random...i must say xD
    Um...it's a photo of a Chinese Junk sailing. With that information, I think you can get his implicit point.

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