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    Default Does this price seem a little high for a small kitchen?

    I have a small kitchen where I want to redo the floor in ceramic tile. A guy came in and gave me a price of $600 for 90 sq. ft. (I buy the tile, mastic and grout.) He added another $50 when he realized the subfloor and vinyl tile has to come up first.

    So for a small kitchen floor, does $650 in labor and subfloor seem reasonable? I'm in the NJ area.

    Thanks for any opinions.

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    Depends, it could be too cheap. Before you even consider whether tile is possible, you need to know the floor construction - joist sizes, length, species type, and spacing. Then, you need to know what the subflooring is. Many floors just aren't capable of supporting tile. Whether yours can is still an open question. For tiling help, suggest you check out www.johnbridge.com.
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    Sounds very cheap to me. I'd be wary.

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    Yeah no kidding.


    Pulling up all that
    subfloor and vinyl tile
    for only $50? That's a great deal of the work sometimes.
    Read what the end of this sentence means.

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    If anything, this is underpriced.

    Do it quickly before he changes his mind

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    And beware when he just stops showing up in the middle of the job.

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    for 90 square feet, he shouldn't have to leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYNeophyte View Post
    I have a small kitchen where I want to redo the floor in ceramic tile. A guy came in and gave me a price of $600 for 90 sq. ft. (I buy the tile, mastic and grout.) He added another $50 when he realized the subfloor and vinyl tile has to come up first.

    So for a small kitchen floor, does $650 in labor and subfloor seem reasonable? I'm in the NJ area.

    Thanks for any opinions.
    Personally, I would want to see pictures of his other work or talk to a couple of his customers if possible, that way I could better judge his level of expertise. How else would you know? References.

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    The warning signs:

    1) Didn't realize that the vinyl and subfloor need to come up.
    2) Wants to use mastic in lieu of thinset.

    Where did you find this guy? Tile can look great right after installation and be a mangled, cracked, nightmare a few weeks or months down the road. Try to find a couple more guys to give you quote. A good place to get a referral or two if you don't know anyone is to ask around at a couple of tile suppliers (not boutiques or big box stores).
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    Try to peek inside this at Border's
    http://www.amazon.com/RSMeans-Buildi...7651480&sr=8-1
    They have tables to correct for ZIPcode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjsmithjr View Post
    The warning signs:
    1) Didn't realize that the vinyl and subfloor need to come up.
    2) Wants to use mastic in lieu of thinset.
    ... a mangled, cracked, nightmare a few weeks or months down the road....
    Agree. A remote possibility is that the guy is young, hasn't been in business for himself for long, doesn't know his costs, figures it's a day's work, just figured he should add more for removing stuff that you could do, saw you had "just the right kind of tile", and a size that can be laid fast, and he knew about the subfloor and as it happens it is so strong that its flex will crack no tiles later... All floors have some give. Are you on concrete? Tile size too small or large makes installation harder. Tiles with certain edges take little time or effort (wide enough grout lines compensate for size and squareness irregularities), tiles with other kinds of edges take a lot of time and effort; it depends on how precise the dimensions are, whether the tile is rectified, etc.

    This may be more than you wanted to know.

    It is possible that this will turn out fine for you. It all depends.

    Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIYNeophyte View Post
    I have a small kitchen where I want to redo the floor in ceramic tile. A guy came in and gave me a price of $600 for 90 sq. ft. (I buy the tile, mastic and grout.) He added another $50 when he realized the subfloor and vinyl tile has to come up first.

    So for a small kitchen floor, does $650 in labor and subfloor seem reasonable? I'm in the NJ area.

    Thanks for any opinions.
    No, it doesn't sound reasonable at all - as everyone pointed out, it seems alarmingly low - low enough that the guy's probably a hack.
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    Could be low depending on where you live. A two day job should be more expensive than that.

    See some of his work, talk to previous clients. Occasionally you find good guys that work for less but most of the time this is a red flag.
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    Talking wait and see what happens.....

    Most likely he will want at least half his
    money up front given to him in "good faith" in cash...

    he will claim that he needs to check on some emergency at home and will be back in a half an hour to start....

    and that will be the last you ever see of him... and your $300..



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    Seems some people prefer the hacks by the amount they are (or aren't for that matter) willing to spend on refurbs and retrofits.

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