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    Quote Originally Posted by jadnashua View Post
    I think it shows up in the first post of the page, which changes as more posts are added.
    Yup, I've noticed that too. Sucks because FF Ad Block Plus does not recognize it as an ad.

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    I vote for having the ad appear in every one of Frenchie's post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar546 View Post
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    DIY Work:

    Is the NM standard colors? White NM 14 awg and the yellow 12 awg?

    If so, the 20A outlet violates 210.21(B)1

    Jamie

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamiedolan View Post
    Is the NM standard colors? White NM 14 awg and the yellow 12 awg?

    If so, the 20A outlet violates 210.21(B)1

    Jamie
    That is real close but the section would be Table 210.21(B)(3)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar546 View Post
    Here is a good example.

    If you look at the photo of the Professional job that looks great there are no safety hazards but there are still 3 code violations that caused the job to fail. They are small and not really safety related but still code violations.

    Can any of you DIYrs see the 3 code violations in the professional photo?
    Ok,

    I'll open myself up for abuse. I'll go for it looks like the runs are stacked and stapled more than 2 deep, the bend radii look tight and the receptical box looks like it isn't very securely mounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apparentgenius View Post
    Ok,

    I'll open myself up for abuse. I'll go for it looks like the runs are stacked and stapled more than 2 deep, the bend radii look tight and the receptical box looks like it isn't very securely mounted.

    glen
    Add not all cables are stapled within 12 inches of panel.

    My addition; 20A outlet being fed with 14 gage NM, No one else seemed to mention this.

    Jamie

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    20A outlet being fed with 14 gage NM, No one else seemed to mention this
    That is because it is on a 15A breaker so it is a moot point.
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    My answers are based mostly on the ICC codes. Advice given is my personal opinion and every person performing work should acquire a permit from his/her jurisdiction and get the work inspected. My opinions are not directions to follow for DIYs or professionals

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar546 View Post
    That is because it is on a 15A breaker so it is a moot point.
    How do you figure? Its a code violation, Only a single receptacle on an individual branch circuit shall have an amprere rating not less than that of the branch circuit.
    Last edited by Chris75; 12-02-2008 at 07:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apparentgenius View Post
    Ok,

    I'll open myself up for abuse. I'll go for it looks like the runs are stacked and stapled more than 2 deep, the bend radii look tight and the receptical box looks like it isn't very securely mounted.

    glen

    Well, was I close?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris75 View Post
    How do you figure? Its a code violation, Only a single receptacle on an individual branch circuit shall have an amprere rating not less than that of the branch circuit.

    Exactly, NOT LESS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apparentgenius View Post
    Well, was I close?
    I will pay you some attention when it seems no one else will. Close but maybe not close enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwelectric View Post
    I will pay you some attention when it seems no one else will. Close but maybe not close enough.
    ok, then is the third one that the cables need to be stapled within 12" of the panel and not that the recepticle box is half on/half off of the strandboard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jar546 View Post
    Exactly, NOT LESS.
    Ha-ha, too bad in the pic its a duplex and NOT a single receptacle, check out art 100 definitions, Also, check out Table 210.21(B)(3). A 20 amp DUPLEX receptacle is a code violation when supplied from a 15 amp circuit, Where a 20 amp SINGLE receptacle can be supplied from a 15 amp individual branch circuit.
    Last edited by Chris75; 12-03-2008 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris75 View Post
    Ha-ha, too bad in the pic its a duplex and NOT a single receptacle, check out art 100 definitions, Also, check out Table 210.21(B)(3). A 20 amp DUPLEX receptacle is a code violation when supplied from a 15 amp circuit, Where a 20 amp SINGLE receptacle can be supplied from a 15 amp individual branch circuit.
    Chris, that table only applies when branch circuit supplies 2 or more receptacles or outlets.

    If you looked inside this panel, like I did, you would see that this receptacle was on a dedicated circuit and supplied no other receptacles.

    Keep reading, it is a good learning experience for both of us.
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