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    I have a Lasco corner whirlpool. I bought a tub overflow/drain assembly and it isn't gonna work. It is adjustable (slip) fittings but it still won't be right. I thought they were all pretty much standard?

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    What you have and what you need isn't readily apparent. They make many versions of drain/overflow assemblies, some with adjustable angle on the drain, some for deeper tubs, etc. They have to match.
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    Thanks. I really have only seen a couple basic styles. Sch 40 and adjustable slip pvc. I will contact Lasco to see what they recommend. Thank you.

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    It would help if we knew what you mean by, "it won't work right". What doesn't work right for you may be simple for us.

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    'Nother reason real plumbers get the big bucks!
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    That and the fact that we do not spend hours trying to make something work if it is not going to.

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    Sounds like you may need a whirlpool style drain/overflow.
    They are usually Schedule 40 and the stopper is cable-driven.
    There is a picture on page 44 of this at Keeney:
    http://www.keeneymanufacturing.com/images/bathdrain.pdf

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    I was going to get a schedule 40 style with pop up. It looks like you just cut the pipe to fit. With this style do you just glue the tailpiece into the trap? The one I have is just thin wall pvc (not sch.40). It is adjustable with compression style fittings. The overflow tube isn't long enough and the tailpiece won't be long enough also.
    My parents have a toe touch on there whirlpool but I believe it was the sch. 40 kit. As I mentioned would you glue the tailpiece to the trap? And yes that is why the plumbers get paid the big bucks. But I enjoy learning and doing things myself. I like to make sure I do it right and not cobbled, that has to count for something. Thx guys. What is simple for you probably isn't to alot of us. LOL. That's why your here for us.

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    You just need to find a drain assembly kit designed for a tub with the depth you have. If you just pick up a generic one, it won't be long enough since most tubs aren't as deep. Some are also available to allow the overflow part to flex so if it isn't at a right angle to the main drain, it will still fit.
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    I copy! I have found some that are whirlpool type specific (17"-22"). Now what about the tailpiece to P trap connection? Do you glue it? I was wondering because I will probably do plenty of dry fitting and checking things over before I start closing everything in and such. Thanks a million!!!

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    Most use a slip joint, not glued (at least that I've seen).
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    I have a trap adapter for the trap. It only fits the thinwall PVC. The sch. 40 is to big. I know I just ain't got the right setup. Any ideas?

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    I just got back to this thread , and i think i know the trap adapter you mean.
    (see pic below)

    That is designed to adapt from a 1 1/2" PVC trap up to the smaller diameter 1 1/2" Polypropylene drain/overflows.
    Hopefully you have a 1 1/2" PVC trap. In that case you won't need an adapter- you can just glue everything together- If this is not in an accesable area you definately do not want a slip joint (as with the adapter).
    The best thing would be to replace the trap if it is not PVC.
    Then the question becomes: What is the next pipe type changover from the trap? (into a main drain line or different type pipe such as old galvanized, etc.)
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    Yes you are correct. I am just going to go with a PVC tailpiece and glue now. I have a PVC trap. BUT, I just found out I have to get a different one. The trap I have has a union. I guess I can't use it, have to get a solvent welded trap also. I thank you for your input.

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    IT is not necessarily a case of you cannot use it, but more that you SHOULD NOT use it.

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