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    Default Choosing your steam shower mechanical design - Avoid Kerdi Board

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    If you care to see my thoughts, rather than copying them here, http://www.terrylove.com/forums/show...e-niches/page5 post #67.

    Short answer...Schluter does not recommend Kerdiboard for commercial steam showers for a reason. It's not in their manual on shower construction. Why John is trying to compare the product in an area it is not recommended with some that are is making a skewed point. Using tools or products in manners they were not intended should have no reflection on how well they work for areas in which they can excel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnfrwhipple View Post
    We have seen you standing on Kerdi Board - and at that it was sagging.
    Again taking things out of context...that was an incomplete installation to get the idea during a training class. If you read a little further, and weren't being so much of a pain, you'd have read that it REQUIRES the metal reinforcement strip when it is not supported to the floor, and that when a completed one was tested, it held over 600# once tiled in without any tile or grout issues. The fact that it sagged a little with 225# on it , raw, without that reinforcement or tile is a testament to both the KerdiFix that was holding it in place and the robustness of the material. Even if you were 600#, that was not big enough a person of that size to sit on, so I cannot see an instance where that didn't have more than enough strength for its intended use.

    Is a quality single-pane window any more water tight than a triple glazed one? Certainly, one has advantages over the other, but who needs that in say a garage or maybe in a bungalow in Hawaii where all you want is to keep the rain out and temperature isn't an issue. Why you think you need multiple layers of waterproofing in a shower is beyond me...guess you either don't trust the thousands of installations that don't leak, or your skills to do it right without extra layers.

    The manufacturers test their stuff, the market tests it, the certification labs test it, so why is it we need John Whipple to tell us that it doesn't work, and you need to do it in a different manner?

    We're not talking about the aesthetics of the look of the finished shower here, we're talking about the guts, and the way the innards are put together. Experience helps with the setting skills, knowledge, however gained doesn't need the manual skills to be correct and valid.
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