obsidian97
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Hi all,
First post on this forum.
I recently started replacing our basement toilet with a new American Standard and discovered that the "last guy in" (LGI) left a bit of a mess.
From what I can gather, the LGI replaced the current toilet and discovered a problem with the original flange (the house is 30 years old), removed it, installed an unlevel inside flange on a 3" waste line (a no-no as I understand it), had problems getting the horn to sit right, over-tightened the closet bolts (resulting in one side of the flange snapping, and the other side being bent), threw two wax rings on there, caulked all the way around the base and called it a day. I'm going to kill the LGI if I ever find him.
Now I have to fix this mess and I'm not sure what to do. The plumbers we've called have said this is an easy fix, but I don't understand the fix. I just get told to cut the old flange out, but not where or how much, or what to replace it with.
I tried using a super-ring and a plain wax ring over the existing flange and the toilet won't sit even remotely level to the floor. Even without the super-ring, the toilet can't get within about 1/2" of level on one side because of the bent flange.
I guess I'm going to have to cut this thing out, but I don't know what to cut and where. I'm hoping that I don't have to tear up the slab in the process. The waste line is PVC/ABS and the inside flange extends about 3 inches or so into the waste line. The flange is not attached to the floor.
Google has not been helpful. I have gotten lots of advice on what to do with a flange that is too low, or such helpful hints as using a piece of cutting board to make a 1/2" shim under the toilet. I'd really like to get the toilet to sit on the floor on it's own and make the right repair.
Any advice?
First post on this forum.
I recently started replacing our basement toilet with a new American Standard and discovered that the "last guy in" (LGI) left a bit of a mess.
From what I can gather, the LGI replaced the current toilet and discovered a problem with the original flange (the house is 30 years old), removed it, installed an unlevel inside flange on a 3" waste line (a no-no as I understand it), had problems getting the horn to sit right, over-tightened the closet bolts (resulting in one side of the flange snapping, and the other side being bent), threw two wax rings on there, caulked all the way around the base and called it a day. I'm going to kill the LGI if I ever find him.
Now I have to fix this mess and I'm not sure what to do. The plumbers we've called have said this is an easy fix, but I don't understand the fix. I just get told to cut the old flange out, but not where or how much, or what to replace it with.
I tried using a super-ring and a plain wax ring over the existing flange and the toilet won't sit even remotely level to the floor. Even without the super-ring, the toilet can't get within about 1/2" of level on one side because of the bent flange.
I guess I'm going to have to cut this thing out, but I don't know what to cut and where. I'm hoping that I don't have to tear up the slab in the process. The waste line is PVC/ABS and the inside flange extends about 3 inches or so into the waste line. The flange is not attached to the floor.
Google has not been helpful. I have gotten lots of advice on what to do with a flange that is too low, or such helpful hints as using a piece of cutting board to make a 1/2" shim under the toilet. I'd really like to get the toilet to sit on the floor on it's own and make the right repair.
Any advice?