The only way to tell if a 12" toilet has the tolerances to fit on an 11" rough is to measure it.
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Here's my problem.
After installing the tiles on the wall, the center of the flange is 11" from the finished wall. I have the pipe sticking out above the floor, maybe 1.5', the elbow is 4" on the flange side and 3" on the drain.
Guess I'm screwed and cannot use 12" rough toilet. Do you think and offset would work? Should I look for 10" rough in? Not sure if there are any tricks to fit in a 12". All of the pipes are in the slab and would be hard to tear everything up again.
Thanks for you help..
Joe
Toto Drake works with 10-7/8" rough-in
Last edited by Terry; 04-13-2009 at 09:22 AM.
The only way to tell if a 12" toilet has the tolerances to fit on an 11" rough is to measure it.
Sorry for the dumb question but what's the best way to measure it? I could go by the local HD and assemble a toilet to try and get the actual size. Do you think what HD has to offer is any good?
The plumbing supply house that has bathroom showroom are kind of far. Also, the only thing that I've been able to find at HD with a 10" rough is one... http://www.stthomascreations.com/pro...0&familyID=111
What do you think about this toilet?
Thanks for your input..
Is it the tank that determines the distance or is it a combination of tank and bowl?
A Toto Drake will fit an 11" rough and give you a damn good toilet too!
Most toilets have a space behind the tank that gives you a little leaway. The amount of space varies from manufacturer to manufacturer, and model-to-model, so there is no flat answer. A 10" rough-in toilet would be guaranteed to fit, some 12" ones would fit (barely) on 11". The manufacturer's spec sheet typically shows the designed gap, and there may be a little wiggle room with the bolt holes while keeping the horn over the flange.
Experience seems to indicate that a Toto Drake will fit (I've not personally measured it, but did select two of these to retrofit into my mother's house - it's a good toilet).
Jim DeBruycker
Important note - I'm not a pro
Retired Defense Industry Engineer
Reread Redwood's remarks about the Toto Drake. He installs many Toto toilets and you can take his word as gospel. While I can't speak from personal experience about the Drake, I do have a Toto Dartmouth (12" RI) installed on a flange that is an exact 12" rough-in, and there is exactly 2" between the wall and the tank. That means this toilet would mount on a 10" rough-in. It would be tight, but it would fit. So your 11" rough-in will be no problem. If you are interested in a Toto other than these two models, you should contact Redwood orTerry directly about them.
Take a look at this spec sheet linked below for the Toto Eco Drake.
On the second page top dimensional drawing look at the 1 1/8" space behind the tank between the tank and the wall.
(this dimension will be the same on all Toto Drakes)
The toilet could fit down to a 10 7/8 rough in before any wiggle room is needed with the bolts and flange.
Toto Eco Drake Spec Sheet
Most toilet manufacturers have on-line spec sheets that show this dimension.
It varies with different manufacturers and models.
I just know Toto Drakes because I have installed a "couple of them" now... LOL
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Last edited by Redwood; 09-16-2008 at 07:43 PM.
Many Home Depot, and ALL plumbing showrooms have toilets assembled and on display so you can physically measure them.
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