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    Default TOTO Ultramax II, Gwyneth MS604114CEFG toilet reviews & pictures


    TOTO Gwyneth MS604114CEFG toilet review
    Made in USA
    Video of performance
    Toto has a new model called the Gwyneth with the WaterSense Ecoflush.
    1.28 gallons, with the double cyclone rinse and Sanagloss in White, Beige/Biscuit and Bone. The Gray and Ebony/Black are without Sanagloss. It comes with the SS114 softclose seat and is the universal bowl height 16-1/8" before the seat is added. MaP testing has given it a 500 gram rating, which in many oppions is plenty for performance. Specs for Gwyneth

    Out of the box, the Gwyneth one-piece is a pop and drop installation.
    Pop the box, and drop it on some new wax.


    The bowl hase two rinse outlets near the top of the bowl, the water swings around the bowl when rinsing. Toto calls it their "Double Cyclone"
    White, Beige and Bone come with the super smooth ion barrier glazing that they call Sanagloss. I have a bowl downstairs with the same glazing that is 2.5 years old, and it's still very smooth, like the day it was installed.



    Inside the tank of the MS604 Gwyneth. It uses the Red Toto 3" flapper, replacements are found at most hardware stores. The fill valve prevents overfilling of the bowl.
    http://www.easycarts.net/ecarts/terr...l#MS604114CEFG

    Originally, TOTO had a one-piece and a two-piece Gwyneth
    These are now:
    MS604114CEFG, Ultramax II
    CST454CEFG, Drake II
    Last edited by Terry; 09-09-2011 at 11:49 AM.

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    Default Updated Review on Gwyneth

    Does anyone have any updated reviews or comments on the 1 piece Gwyneth (with or without Sanagloss). I am very close to purchasing 3 of them for my home reno and just want to make sure that they are as fantastic as they appear to be.

    Specs for Gwyneth

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    Have had our two Gwyneths since June (Sanagloss) and have had no clogs or problems. One does need to be sure to push the flush lever down completely (no need to hold there, though) as an incomplete push can result in an incomplete flush. Expect that's the same with all toilets.

    I really like the look, too.

    And if you have any concerns about the seat shape - one gets accustomed to it very quickly and I now prefer it to the flat seat on our 1 remaining waterhog toilet. Had some doubts prior to purchasing.

    Last edited by Terry; 01-17-2010 at 05:35 PM.

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    Should have added that the bowl stays much cleaner than on our old regular style toilets (with the numerous holes under the rim). We'd get mucky buildup quite quickly on the old toilet and that just isn't happening now - maybe in part because these are NEW toilets. But swirling action of the double cyclone and having just the two openings under the rim is definitely good.

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    Default Just Wondering...

    What are the advantages of this one over Toto EcoDrake besides Sani-gloss and Cyclone flush? I really like my EcoDrake and I'm trying to decide what to use in my other bathroom.

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    SanaGlos is super smooth so things have more difficulty sticking and rinse off easier. It also has some antimicrobial properties. Personaly, I think it is a good choice. Some other companies offer similar finishes, but I haven't compared them. I know Duravit makes one they call Wondergloss (or something like that). Most toilets sold in Japan have similar finishes.
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    Default Toto Gwyneth not recommended?

    Terry,

    Am curious why the Gwyneth did not make your list of recommendations for toilets "that work in today's world". We just bought one (not installed yet) and now have second thoughts about it as it's not on your list at terrylove.com/crtoilet.htm.

    Which would you say is your favorite Toto 1.28 gpf (considering performance, price, and ease of parts replacement for a DIYer), the EcoUltramax?

    Sue

    P.S. Thanks for the great website and forum.

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    The Gwyneth works fine. I need to update the list.

    Video of performance


    MS604114CEFG in Beige
    Last edited by Terry; 10-29-2012 at 12:50 PM.

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    I ended up purchasing 3 Gwyneth once piece toilets and we absolutely LOVE them!
    The universal height is great...except now when i use someone else's toilet it always seems so low! lol The Sanagloss is good and the double cyclone flush cleans very well most times however sometimes you do need to use the brush a bit.
    My only minor complaint would be that the flush is a little bit noisy but only for a second so no big deal.
    Overall I rate this 9.5 out of 10

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    Last edited by Terry; 07-16-2009 at 08:44 AM.

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    Are the fill valve and flush valve on the one and two-piece Gwyneths replaceable with the Korky parts from Lowe's?

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    Default Gwyneth ranking

    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    The Gwyneth works fine. I need to update the list.
    So where would you rank it?

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    Last edited by Terry; 07-16-2009 at 09:04 AM.

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    I would put it just below the Sanagloss version of the Drake and Ultramax.

    I still like those a bunch.
    I have the Sanagloss Ultramax downstairs.

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    Thanks for your quick response. We cannot get the Ultramax with Sanagloss in Bone. Which would you recommend, the Ultramax without the Sanagloss or the Ultramax II with Sanagloss? We are not going to get the Drake because we want a one-piece toilet. Thanks again.

    Rick

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    Talking Awesome Toilet!

    I love this tiolet! Definently worth the money. This is my first Toto and i think I'm hooked.


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    Quote Originally Posted by slpknt10l03 View Post
    I love this tiolet! Definently worth the money. This is my first Toto and i think I'm hooked.


    What's up with the base of the toilet? Looks like a couple inches of caulk? Or is it sitting on sort sort of elevated base?

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