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    They kind of ticked me off this morning. Got a flash pop-up that I had updated available for download, so I figured need to do that. It was a BIG download....took over a half hour on DSL including 2 restarts during install. THEN they tell me "thanks for downloading your 15 day trial of Norton 2008. To continue, send bucks!!!

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    Jimbo they ticked me off years ago and believe me it uninstalls a lot faster than it installs.
    When I removed it from this computer 5 years ago and installed Grisoft AVG Free my PC was noticably faster.

    Norton is a resource hog!
    Notice how Norton updates all come out on wednesday and take a long time to download and install?
    Ever wonder what happens when a new virus that spreads like wild fire comes out on thursday?

    With AVG free I get several updates a week as new threats emerge and havent had any virus problems. Several have been caught and removed or, quarantined...

    In 2005 I had the computer in the shop to have a repair (laptop keyboard) and they give it back to me trying to me trying to charge $50 higher than quoted cause they put Norton anti-virus on for me... Needless to say I paid the quoted price and they ate the Norton install. I used it for 1/2 a year seeing as i got such a great deal before I couldn't stand it any more. I uninstalled it and again put on Grisoft Free AVG. Once again my computer got faster.

    Never again!
    Here is the link to Download.com to get AVG Free.
    http://www.download.com/AVG-Anti-Vir...dlPid=10861654
    Go for it Jimbo! It's got the Redwood seal of approval!

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    I have had several bad experiences with their products.
    1. Missed destructive viruses more than once. System was able to be restored to the restore point.
    2. Uninstall is a total nightmare! It can destroy your system. Nearly impossible to remove it all.
    3. Rebates not honored.

    I have switched to Trend PC Cillin. IMHO far superior to anything Symantec has.
    You can usually find it for next to nothing after rebate.

    Good Luck

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    Yea, With those Wednesday updates you can catch a weeks worth of exposure before the detection is there. On the bright side... If your hard drive makes through the infestation they usually have a removal tool patch available later on their website... Go figure!

    http://www.symantec.com/norton/secur...movaltools.jsp

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    Same here, I tried two different Norton products and they both slowed my machine down immensely. I got rid of them both and don't look back. AVG is free and it's for me.

    bob...

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    Have been using the Enterprise version for years, no problems. Updates download via DSL in well less than a minute. The only thing I have found slow is when it is doing a complete scan, other than that I see no performance issues.

    Have over 20 users, and multiple servers both Novell and Windows.

    Updates are almost every day if not every other.

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    I have no Virus problems With Gnu/Linux

    Norton is a huge system hog and just about every other brand is way faster and cheaper
    I'm just starting to work with an old friend of mine to bring solar electric and hot water systems, wind turbines, Flex Fuel Boilers, batteries, hydroponic gardening, books, pellet grills and more. Also the parts for DIY installation.

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    Used AVG recently and it worked fine.

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    If you are willing to pay for protection then I recommend ESET NOD32 Antivirus (http://www.eset.com/) which has a very very small resource footprint and is a high quality product.

    They also sell a security suite which I have not tried.

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    Don't use Norton. Norton Bad!!!!!

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    I threw in the towel on Norton. Their last email sent me yet another unistaller, and yet another copy or version of Norton to install. I used the uninstaller, and then went straight to Kaspersky Internet Security 2009. No problems since!

    I used kaspersky on my last computer and liked it. I am sorry I ever went to Norton.(( Sort of pushed on me with the new computer))

    I hope Norton doesn't ask me how I liked their customer service....they won't like the answer!

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    hello,
    Norton is better then other antivirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James_B View Post
    hello,
    Norton is better then other antivirus.
    That is an opinion and subject to debate...

    Press ctrl, alt, delete and select task manager.
    Click on the processes tab.
    Scroll down the list and look for Norton Antivirus components that are running.
    They will usually be listed as sym*********, Nav********
    Watch the CPU & Mem Usage numbers...
    No doubt it's a resource hog.
    That' only part of the picture.
    When it is running it uses other windows components such as AppSvc32.exe,
    explorer.exe, Services.exe, rundll.exe, & taskmgr.exe this makes it difficult to see the full extent of its sucking down the resources of your PC.

    Perhaps the easiest way is to look on tha list at system idle process and look at the CPU number. this shows how much the processor is being used. With nothing running the number should be at or very close to 100. This is saying that the system is idle and not doing anything.

    Now start a Norton scan...
    Watch the CPU number for system idle plummet.
    That shows how much of the processor capacity is available for use by other processes. Not much left huh?

    Thats only part of the picture. Click on the Task Manager Performance tab and look at the line on the Page File History Graph and watch that shoot up. That is an indicator of how much of your RAM is being used. If that meets the top it is an indicator that it has used up all the available RAM and instead of quickly writing to RAM it reverts to the slowwer process of writing to disc. Thats bad news and a sign that you need more RAM to be able to run it.

    This is why your Pentium IV processor turns into a Commodore 64 when Norton is running.

    Other anti-virus programs such as GrisoftAVG, & Kaspersky are sleeker more streamlined programs that use nowhere near the system resources that Norton does and offer full protection.

    Just my opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    believe me it uninstalls a lot faster than it installs.
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    You got that right!!


    I am liking the Kaspersky. Who better than the Russkies understands viruses!!!

    It updates on a continuous basis, and works heuristically, which means it can detect almost any NEW threat BEFORE it is actually identified and catalogued in the data base. It sniffs them out. Supposedly Kaspersky and NOD32 are the best ones at this feature.

    Haven't heard another peep from Symantec! What do they care? They got my $89 in April!

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    Another avg free user here, been using it for years. Symantec's Norton Antivirus used to really slow down a lot of my applications so I uninstalled it and went with AVG.

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