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    I was surprised to find today that the M*ds in my area are switching from Sioux Cheif to Watts for their PEX fittings.

    The salesman assured me that fittings, rings, and tools are interchangable....

    I wasn't crazy about Sioux Chief anyway (seems a little flimsy). I think it is time that I switch to Wirsbo before I really get into the meat of the project.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaneys View Post
    I was surprised to find today that the M*ds in my area are switching from Sioux Cheif to Watts for their PEX fittings.

    The salesman assured me that fittings, rings, and tools are interchangable....

    I wasn't crazy about Sioux Chief anyway (seems a little flimsy). I think it is time that I switch to Wirsbo before I really get into the meat of the project.

    Steve
    I use Watts Waterpex with the cinch clamp rings. I would go with Wirsbo if I was in construction plumbing as I do feel it is better but, in repair you have to be ready for everything and this allowed me maximum versatility with as little tooling and inventory possible.

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    Talking Just another law suit waiting to happen

    seaneys states that .....

    The guy at Men---- assured me that the fittings
    are interchangeable........LOL...

    now how in the world would he know, he has had
    how much experience with this stuff.....
    did he just get transferred from flooring to plumbing last week?????


    It is really getting scarey out there......I think
    in about 5 -10 years we are all are going to be going
    out of pex disasters everywhere..


    Kitech in nevada put a couple of large plumbers out of business
    and moved to canada to stay afloat..

    Zurn is probably going to go belly up pretty soon
    with about 40 million defective fittings out there in the
    mid-west...., or move to Mexico or canada

    then the next one will be Souix Cheif..........

    then Watts will have to walk the plank too when
    those "interchangeable fittings" from China start
    to break apart ...

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    But then I suppose re-pipeing whole houses is good money.
    it will keep us all busy......



    But, I really dont understand what is going on..
    Quality has been totally thrown out the window.
    for some cheap untested junk.........




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    Quality has been totally thrown out the window.
    for some cheap untested junk.........



    I guess you would feel better it it were "cheap, TESTED, junk"?

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    Talking yes HJ I would.....

    Well, yes HJ I would feel much better if at least
    it had been installed somewhere for a few years first....


    This is nothing different today that what went on
    back in the 80s with the POLYBUTELINE fiasco......
    and the hot water lines comming apart.

    its about the same thing, just re-packaged.....

    ZURN Used some peoples new million dollar homes all over Minnesota
    to test out their cheap brass fittings from China ........this was not smart....

    being the guennie pig for untested products cannot be fun for those involved...

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    My brother installed some 3/4" copper elbows a week ago that leaked at the coner, two of them from the same bag. Bought at a supply house, not a box store, not made in the USA though. Even the copper is going down hill. You'll have lots of work if you don't get nailed by some defective product lawsuit, not just PEX.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master plumber mark View Post
    Well, yes HJ I would feel much better if at least
    it had been installed somewhere for a few years first....


    This is nothing different today that what went on
    back in the 80s with the POLYBUTELINE fiasco......
    and the hot water lines comming apart.

    its about the same thing, just re-packaged.....

    ZURN Used some peoples new million dollar homes all over Minnesota
    to test out their cheap brass fittings from China ........this was not smart....

    being the guennie pig for untested products cannot be fun for those involved...

    All the plumbing forums across the internet are testament to the pressing issues of fast and easy.


    I bought a huge lot of materials on an online auction and I"m pretty sure I have 100's of these brass fittings.

    To the scrap barrel you go! Including all those plastic fittings to boot!
    Read what the end of this sentence means.

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