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    Hi All,

    I have been lurking around this forum for a few weeks and have found tons of great advice, thank you.

    I am getting a new pull-down kitchen faucet and am kinda torn between 2 models, the Delta Allora (989-SS) and Moen Showhouse Woodmere (S728SL). The Delta has a magnet that keeps the spout in place while the Moen uses a standard friction fitting, I do like the appearence of the Moen slightly better though...

    Question - Anyone have any first hand knowledge or experience with either faucet?

    Thanks!

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    Talking Delta Is Better

    get the delta.....

    theirs is simply much easier to repair
    and it last longer too

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    Quote Originally Posted by master plumber mark View Post
    get the delta.....

    theirs is simply much easier to repair
    and it last longer too
    That is a matter of opinion. ..

    In my area, I find the moen alot easier to repair than the delta. I find moen parts more readily available than the delta. Even the most obscure check valves that the pullout sray/spout combos have are easier to find than delta parts

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    I would expect that both the Moen and Delta would have parts readily available in my area. A sideline observation, from what I have read it seems that the Delta's (in general) require a bit more service but the parts are easy to get free direct from Delta, correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tkohn View Post
    from what I have read it seems that the Delta's (in general) require a bit more service but the parts are easy to get free direct from Delta, correct?
    From what I know it's the other way around.

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    An amateur's opinion: Moen.

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    Talking moen posi temps....

    I prefer the Delta for general principle....

    once you have fought a few of those moen cartridges
    that simply cannot come out short of an act of god...

    you wish that it was a Delta for that reason alone..


    parts are parts.... both are easy to get for FREE..

    Delta is very , very easy to repair,

    Moen can more often than not become a
    literal MANHOOD CONTEST to get apart.
    I have torn our out of a walll before.....

    I dont like to curse that much in fromt of the
    customer....



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    I feel that both are a good choice... I lean toward Moen on the basis of their great customer service. I hear the complaints of hard to remove cartridges and have yet to encounter one.

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    I admit I did have to manufacture a puller to get the cartidges out of a pair of new shower valves last year. Nice diversion . My only complaint with Moen, and it may be universal now, is those $#!* all-pictures, no-words instructions they're sending out these days.

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    You looked at the instructions?
    Real plumbers do not look at the instructions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redwood View Post
    You looked at the instructions?
    Real plumbers do not look at the instructions!
    They have instuctions??

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    I thought they eliminated the words so that real plumbers could read them .

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    In our hard-water area, Moen cartridges can be difficult if not impossible to remove. Used to be only the brass cartridges got frozen in place because of a combination of lime buildup on the o-rings and the o-rings themselves hardening. But I've more recently had problems even with the plastic cartridges breaking in half, and leaving a section in the bottom of the chamber.

    I've ruined countless aftermarket pullers for the brass cartridges. I always consider when working on one that I may be ripping out the wall. If the aftermarket cartridge puller doesn't work, there is no way to get it back out of the faucet.

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    If you want some information on installing kitchen faucet just have a look at this
    assemble the tools listed on the installation sheet included in the faucet box
    shut off the water supplies from the valves located under your sink & turn on the faucet to release pressure
    disconnect the tubes attached to the water supply valves. You may need to use a tubing cutter to cut the water supply pipes
    Its a drawn out procedure if use need more information you can visit the sites that are available on net.

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    Talking this is the reason you want Delta.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Herk View Post
    In our hard-water area, Moen cartridges can be difficult if not impossible to remove. Used to be only the brass cartridges got frozen in place because of a combination of lime buildup on the o-rings and the o-rings themselves hardening. But I've more recently had problems even with the plastic cartridges breaking in half, and leaving a section in the bottom of the chamber.

    I've ruined countless aftermarket pullers for the brass cartridges. I always consider when working on one that I may be ripping out the wall. If the aftermarket cartridge puller doesn't work, there is no way to get it back out of the faucet.


    your post says it all.....
    I have literally been in tears trying to get
    half of a plastic posi-temp cartridge out
    of a second story shower faucet before....
    what should have been a 20 min job turns into
    3 hours...

    I have had to change out a good handful of Moen faucets
    where they literally wont come out...

    and for many of the moen lavatory and kitchen faucets it
    takes majic or a miracle to get them off without scarring them all up
    in the effort of removeing them just to get to the innards..


    all I know is
    at least with delta you got a fighting chance
    10 years from now

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