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    Default Alternate Valve for Radiator?

    I'm adding two Burnham Baseray cast iron baseboard radiators to my basement. I've run the piping out of the framed walls since floor is of course concrete.

    The plumbing supply houses here only have right angle radiator valves (intended for piping up through floor) and the valve enclosure is not deep enough to mount it in a horizontal position.

    Any reason why I cannot use an alternate "regular" valve to make it fit? If so what type is best? Gate, stop, ball?

    Any advice appreciated. Thanks... Phil

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    Hmm, maybe the picture will explain it better.

    The grey valve encloure on the left is not deep enough to fit the radiator valve in a horizontal position.

    Since I can't locate a straight radiator valve, my plan is to sweat a cast 90 onto the stub, then a union and the regular valve.

    It's a regular gate valve in the pic, and unless someone has a reason not to do that, or a better alternative, that is tomorrow morning's project! Phil
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    I can't think of any reason not to use a regular valve but that doesn't mean their isn't one. I'd wait for a definite answer from one of the other guys.

    If you do go this route one thing you do not want is direct contact between the cast iron and copper. I'd use an IPS ball valve, and put a male IPS to sweat adapter in one side and a black nipple in the other. It wouldn't be a bad idea to put a union in there as well to make changing the valve or removing the radiator easier.

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    Thank you for the info Marlin.

    Yes I had considered the iron / copper issue. The brass valve housing should do the trick:

    radiator > iron close nipple > brass valve > brass union to copper.

    Not sure about a ball valve, I have the same space issue with the swing of the handle. I'd have to make sure it will fit in the enclosure.

    Phil

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    Why the enclosure? If I was worried about unauthorized valve-handle-turning, I'd just remove the handle from the angle valve.

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    Wetboots the enclosure not to secure the valve in any way, it's just for looks. With it on you can install the finish carpentry (baseboard) right up to the radiator and run the top cap up and over the device. It's a nice finished look.

    I had not checked how much clearance I gain by removing the wheel, I'll see.

    One guy at the plumbing supply house thought the primary difference between a "radiator" valve and regular plumbing valve is ability to withstand heat. My boiler runs at about 140 degrees, which isn't that far from some domestic water heaters, so I'm not sure that's a legit concern.

    I think I'm going with the gate valve. Thanks for the information all. Phil

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