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    Bosun,

    Of course the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. There may be global warming. And people may be the cause of it. Or not.
    There may be global cooling. And people may be the cause of it. Or not.

    Open scientific research, over time, will probably get to the bottom of it. However, when research is corrupted by politicians and by journalists, it interferes with getting to the answer.

    But remember, the fixes that have been proposed are not harmless ones like "buy a hybrid" or "insulate your house". Proposed fixes will devastate the environment and our economy. And this is based on very incomplete and questionable information and an unproven hypothesis.

    The situation we have right now is that a scientist that disputes the accepted wisdom is considered a cook or - even worse - a shill for industry or for the Bush administration. The current academic environment is like a witch trial, in which no one is willing to publicly question the data (which ARE questionable), or the methodology for reaching a conclusion.

    Science has been distorted. In fact, people - scientists - are accepting these conclusions without checking the data themselves, which is simply not how science is supposed to work. Science is empirical. Believing something because someone else said so is not. It is religion, not science.

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    Cookie,

    It depends on the cancer. Cancer is a heterogeneous disease. Some cancers are mostly genetic based (e.g. neuroblastoma). Some are environmental (e.g. mesothelioma). Some are infectious (e.g. cervical carcinoma).

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    Bosun,

    What drives ME nuts is how willing people are to accept the party line in climate research, but how resistant they are to accept the results of medical research. There can be reams of data on soem topic or another, but how many people ignore that and go to "alternative" providers to get some treatment that has not a shred of evidence to support it?

    How hard would it be to find 2000 doctors to say that magnets are a load of crap? Or aromatherapy? Or spine manipulation (for disorders that have nothing to do with the spine)? Or reflexology? Or massage (unless your muscles are sore)? Or homeopathy? And how many people pursue these alternative therapies anyway? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these therapies are without merit. I'm just saying that the medical establishment thinks they are, just like the climate research establishment thinks its heresy to doubt anthropogenic global warming. And unlike the medical establishment, which many people are deeply suspicious of, the global warmingists are accepted uncritically. Just sayin'...

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    Default I agree

    I agree that people are going nuts. People seem to want a silver bullet for this one, and it's not spelled hybrid. Just like when people want to lose weight, the lifestyle change is the real problem.

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    Rugged,

    My quote did not come from another forum and why are you including them into mine?

    I was asking Jon the question because I have been studying about the single strand and the double strand DNA.

    Also, you should really get your stone analyzed to see what kind it is. I would talk with your urologist. It can be controlled by diet.

    Good luck.

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    what drives me crazy is that all these people complain about suvs and what everybody else is doing. Most of the time the people that bitch the most are the ones that cause the most harm.

    I'm just starting to work with an old friend of mine to bring solar electric and hot water systems, wind turbines, Flex Fuel Boilers, batteries, hydroponic gardening, books, pellet grills and more. Also the parts for DIY installation.

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    Higher fuel costs don't even phase the majority of people driving in my area.

    If there is ever an abrupt halt in fuel consumption in this world, you are going to see mayhem with some serious stoppages of travel.

    Massive increases in flight fees at the airport.

    My fuel for my turbo diesel is $3.18/gallon

    It takes on average 13 minutes longer to get anywhere over a 10 mile span now because of the amount of cars on the road that busy up intersections/slow down and congest areas.

    The days of getting up early on a saturday morning and driving the open road is a falsehood; cars and vehicles everywhere and activity at night is as common as a concrete sidewalk.
    Read what the end of this sentence means.

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    I agree...there is a major highway that runs through the town I grew up in and when I was 10 my friends and I would ride our bikes to the bridge that went over it at about 7-8:00 PM and see if we were able to see 2 cars on it at the same time...now it is nearly bumper to bumper 24/7/365

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    Talking My answer to this problem.....

    It has come to me ....the answer to global warming.....

    in a dream last night...................

    all we got to do is simply stop reproduceing....!!!!!


    If some scientist would make a pill or put
    something in the air or water that would totally kill
    the sex drive of every male and female on the planet,
    (just like my wife)

    and no one wanted to make more humans at the rate
    we are popping them out everywhere ...........

    the planet would be saved......


    that seems to be about the only thing about 80 % of the
    people that inhabit the earth even know how to do.......

    and we kow that they are not gonna stop doing that anytime soon........

    so the planet Earth is gonna find another way to get rid of a whole bunch of us....

    maybe that is what global warming is all about in the first place....


    its all a numbers game.....
    and theri are about 4 billion too many....

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    There are about 4 billion people to many who believe there are too many people.

    This attitude is one of the most archaic and crude ones, that there are too many people.

    Give yourself and other humans credit. We are problem-solving people, able to synthesize information, and find solutions. Perhaps we can find ways to improve lifestyles and living conditions before we begin with the scary, and sometimes oppressive, social-population control theories.
    "Any American who is prepared to run for President should automatically, by definition, be disqualified from ever doing so."
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    Here, I got the perfect solution. Everyone in the whole world hold their breath at the same time for one minute...

    and, while doing so read this:

    http://www.collegiatetimes.com/news/...007-01-31.html

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    Talking perhaps we should study the problem further......

    Quote Originally Posted by molo View Post
    There are about 4 billion people to many who believe there are too many people.

    This attitude is one of the most archaic and crude ones, that there are too many people.

    Give yourself and other humans credit. We are problem-solving people, able to synthesize information, and find solutions. Perhaps we can find ways to improve lifestyles and living conditions before we begin with the scary, and sometimes oppressive, social-population control theories.


    Well how many people do you think that the planet can
    accomidate living at our present life-style???

    If you watch the movie "an inconvienant truth"

    that AL GORE did and got the nobel prize for he states about the same thing that about 500 years ago their were only about 500 million people on the entire planet...

    now their are about 7 billion and the co2 levels on the earth are off the chart.......


    Hey...AL GORE got the nobel prise for stateing the same

    "archaic and crude idea " that I just posted this

    morning...

    perhaps with a little more tact, but I am ok with that....


    As far as your opinoin that we can find solutioins and we
    are great at synthesizeing information....
    that is all analitical double talk and simply a way to delay and delay ever having to take action....

    in other words ...horse shit,,,,

    you are under the delusion that Technology will save us from ourselves if we simply sit back and wait long enough.........

    you are also under the delusion that everyone on the whole planet can have the same life style that we have had for the last 50 years in the USA..

    well guess what ........everyone on the planet wants what we have and is willing to do anything to get it.

    so are we gonna just strip the planet bare so everyone can have this fantastic life-style????.


    I dont think that the planet would like that too much...
    and you really dont want to wake up MOTHER EARTH.......


    most likely we are stareing at a future where their willl be a terrible war fought over the last barrel of oil to keep the economy of the winner intact.........

    that is another way to decrease the populatioin ,
    I suppose....


    I like my idea better
    and would rather take the pill or have it
    put in the water system to reduce the populatioin

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    Quote Originally Posted by master plumber mark View Post
    most likely we are stareing at a future where their willl be a terrible war fought ... to decrease the populatioin ...
    Yep. That is what is ahead.

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    Read what the end of this sentence means.

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    This is a plumbing forum???

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