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    So a screw driven into the back, with only the head showing, would be fine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchie View Post
    So a screw driven into the back, with only the head showing, would be fine?
    Yes .

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    So a screw driven into the back, with only the head showing, would be fine?

    Like so much of the code, this is a matter of opinion.

    Could the conductors come in contact with a screw head in the back (or side) of a box? Yeah but it aint likely.

    I've been red tagged only once for this. I put a dab of caulk on the screw heads and he was fine with it.

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    Bottom line (as usual) is that the ultimate interpretation of the code is made by the AHJ. If "your" guy is sick on inspection day, the rules could be completely different from those you followed the last time. Not a good way to run a railroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Bottom line (as usual) is that the ultimate interpretation of the code is made by the AHJ. If "your" guy is sick on inspection day, the rules could be completely different from those you followed the last time. Not a good way to run a railroad.
    The major problem with the electrical trade today is the mind set of the electrical contractors.

    There is only one right way to make an electrical installation and that is outlined in the adopted laws of the jurisdiction that the installation is being made.

    The Code Enforcement Official or as some call them the AHJ does not have the authority to interpret the code in any manner other than the way it is written. This is true no matter how the inspector is feeling or who is making the installation.

    The electrician or person making the installation has the responsibility to know the codes instead of letting the inspector make him a punch list.

    The bottom line when making installations of any kind the better one knows the codes that pertain to the installation the more money that person is going to put in his/her pocket.

    Remember the motto of the Marine Corps, “Be all that you can be”. If you are not willing to spend the time and effort to learn the rules of your trade then you don’t have the right to complain about how the inspector conducts their inspections nor what they say is right and wrong.

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    It means 1 x 2 nominal, which is 5/8 x 1 1/2 minimum size wood support.

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    The inspector on the job is not the final authority-but his boss is. Local Jurisdictions have the authority to upgrade the Code, as well as interpret the Code in the many grey areas. Hopefully they will write this stuff down in a local Code building manuel, which is what Sonoma county does.( my college class worked on that building manuel). Santa Rosa city says they interpret on a "case by case basis" an inconsistant ego-power play-time wasting idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ked View Post
    Santa Rosa city says they interpret on a "case by case basis" an inconsistant ego-power play-time wasting idea.
    Yeah, but it's also an avenue to introduce some common sense into the process, if your inspector has any. Don't knock it.

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    Yeah, but it's also an avenue to introduce some common sense into the process, if your inspector has any. Don't knock it.
    Very seldom have I seen individual inspectors add any common sense into the process, nothing against inspectors, but the good ones KNOW the code and what the local jurisdiction allows and the no so good ones write their own code on occasion.

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