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    Default perm. removed light. what do i do with wires?

    i removed a light fixture and want to plaster the wall hole. i put caps on the wire ends. can i just push them through and close up the holes or is there something more i need to do?

    thanks
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    YES. If you absolutely need to cover this box you MUST find where the wires originate and cut them off so they can't be used again.

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    Said another way, if the wires are still hot, you can't cover it over!
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    there is no box. just two wires coming out of the wall and no other place to access them. can the live wires be disconnected at the switch?

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    Yes, they have to come out somewhere. The switch would be the best place to look.

    If the fixture was a pull-chain style, the wires could end up anywhere.
    Just my 2 worth.

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    sorry but i am almost completely stupid when it comes to electrical...

    isn't it a default fallback plan to just disconnect the wires at the switch to solve the problem of the hot wire in the wall?

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    I don't know of any code section to support it, but I would want the wires CUT off short in the box so they can't be used any more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    I don't know of any code section to support it, but I would want the wires CUT off short in the box so they can't be used any more.


    I would be happy just to short them out and tag them in the box they originate from, Don't see the need to cut them, you may need them in the future...

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    ...if you can find them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Speedy Petey View Post
    ...if you can find them.

    I just keep telling myself the same thing... all kidding aside, something about cutting them just bothers me, but I hear there is help for that now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nothingeverworks View Post
    i removed a light fixture and want to plaster the wall hole. i put caps on the wire ends. can i just push them through and close up the holes or is there something more i need to do?

    thanks
    Do more than just "cap" them.

    I abandon wires all the time and I rarely cut them short in a box. If it is newer "Romex" style cable you can slide the sheating back a few inches, stagger cut (3/8")the individual wires with the hot being longest, the slide the sheathing back and fold the end over. If it's older "cloth" sheathing, stagger cut the wires and tightly wrap tape SEVERAL layers around until you have completely isulated the wires.

    As long as you insulate the wires as good as the rest of the run it will be as safe as the rest of the run.
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    thanks for all of the responses ...including the off cuff ones (or should i say off-cut ones

    since there is no box and the wires will never be used again i will try aletrician's suggestion: staggering and insulating. thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alectrician View Post
    Do more than just "cap" them.

    I abandon wires all the time and I rarely cut them short in a box. If it is newer "Romex" style cable you can slide the sheating back a few inches, stagger cut (3/8")the individual wires with the hot being longest, the slide the sheathing back and fold the end over. If it's older "cloth" sheathing, stagger cut the wires and tightly wrap tape SEVERAL layers around until you have completely isulated the wires.

    As long as you insulate the wires as good as the rest of the run it will be as safe as the rest of the rum.
    Are you saying you leave hot wires, not terminated in a box or anything, hanging inside walls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by frenchie View Post
    Are you saying you leave hot wires, not terminated in a box or anything, hanging inside walls?

    That would be a big No No wouldn't it

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    I'm more than a little bit alarmed, yeah.

    Not only is it bad, dangerous, illegal advice - but it sounds like the OP is going to take that advice?

    This is not okay.
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