Zimmee66
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OK--my first post (though Ive been reading for years!)
Badly rotted subfloor, tipping toilet leaks
Fun, but I've done this task once or twice, so I feel OK (but not excited) dealing with it.
Until now, I've been lucky enough to only have to deal with modern PVC waste piping until now. But my lucks run out...
The set-up:
1915 house, the leaking first floor toilet from was replaced in the late 90s but waste piping is OLD and I dont think they noticed/cared about what must have already been suspciously rotted floor even then.
Closet Bend (Cast Iron) is 8 inches below floor, easily accessible from below. The existing soil pipe from closet bend hub to toilet flange seems to be a lead pipe of some sort...*this* is what Ive never seen before!
As the toilet tilted the lead pipe has buckled, tilting flange and causing leak around toilet horn/wax ring.
The goal is fix leak, ficx subfloor, and simple vinyl tile job.
1) Is the sleeve salvageable? Ive never seen this lead sleeve type before, but I imagine it could *maybe* be beaten back into shape, but then I dont know about attaching a new flange to it-sounds difficult.
2) If lead pipe should come out, whats the best way to remove it? gentle sawzall and screwdriver, etc. to pick lead and oakum out of the cast iron bell?
3) If I replace the soil pipe with PVC--what is the best way to meet a Cast Iron closet bend *hub* (bell?) with PVC?
Ive seen a PVC soil pipe with some sort of integral gasket, but I'm not sure if that would work and I cant find one in my rural area (Actually, I live in such boonies that its tough to even get a plumber--hence my tackling this mess!)
thanks for any help!
-jay
Badly rotted subfloor, tipping toilet leaks
Fun, but I've done this task once or twice, so I feel OK (but not excited) dealing with it.
Until now, I've been lucky enough to only have to deal with modern PVC waste piping until now. But my lucks run out...
The set-up:
1915 house, the leaking first floor toilet from was replaced in the late 90s but waste piping is OLD and I dont think they noticed/cared about what must have already been suspciously rotted floor even then.
Closet Bend (Cast Iron) is 8 inches below floor, easily accessible from below. The existing soil pipe from closet bend hub to toilet flange seems to be a lead pipe of some sort...*this* is what Ive never seen before!
As the toilet tilted the lead pipe has buckled, tilting flange and causing leak around toilet horn/wax ring.
The goal is fix leak, ficx subfloor, and simple vinyl tile job.
1) Is the sleeve salvageable? Ive never seen this lead sleeve type before, but I imagine it could *maybe* be beaten back into shape, but then I dont know about attaching a new flange to it-sounds difficult.
2) If lead pipe should come out, whats the best way to remove it? gentle sawzall and screwdriver, etc. to pick lead and oakum out of the cast iron bell?
3) If I replace the soil pipe with PVC--what is the best way to meet a Cast Iron closet bend *hub* (bell?) with PVC?
Ive seen a PVC soil pipe with some sort of integral gasket, but I'm not sure if that would work and I cant find one in my rural area (Actually, I live in such boonies that its tough to even get a plumber--hence my tackling this mess!)
thanks for any help!
-jay