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    Question Shower Valve Recommendations

    I am about to renovate our bathroom. Since the walls are coming down I want to replace the shower/tub valve inside the wall with something that will take a lot of abuse (six showers a day) and when needed will be simple to repair. The builder has recommended Grohe and the plumbing supplier has recommended Koehler.

    Any thoughts on a solid, reliable fixture?
    What about ceramic valves?
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    Depending on your wallet Moen and Delta make good valves also.

    I would go with a Moen or Delta due to ease of finding repair parts when the time comes.

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    I prefer and recommend the Delta 1700 series valve. With it you can preset the temperature with a small handle and the volume with the large one. Kohler, and most Grohe, run full flow once you turn them on, and all you can adjust with the handle is the temperature, unless you buy an expensive thermostatic valve.

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    Default Shower Valve Recommendations

    Since we are re-doing the entire room, the cost of the valve isn't an issue; the durability and repairability are my biggest concerns

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    Talking Delta 1700

    the DELTA 1700 valve will cost you about 125.00


    IT IS LITERALLY THE ABSOLUTE BEST YOU CAN BUY.........


    NOTHING IS BETTER> no matter what you feel like paying......


    and will last forever.......and the parts are very easy to

    change out and make new again in 25 years too.


    NOW If you like I will sell you a 1700 valve for $600
    and guarantee it for life.... if money is no object....

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    And if you were to get the new 1700 with the universal body, next year you could convert it to a thermostatically controlled one when it is available.

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    Most plumbers seem to feel that Delta is very reliable.

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    most plumbers have been bitten the ass numerous times by all the

    other "relaible name brands " available out there...

    I have sworn off trying to buy something else a little cheaper long ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by hj
    And if you were to get the new 1700 with the universal body, next year you could convert it to a thermostatically controlled one when it is available.
    Just checking in to see whether the Delta 1700 shower sets sold now are *all* the "universal body" style. Or are some not upgradeable to Thermostatic?

    Anyone know?

    Thanks!
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    Some companies may still have some old stock, but the t'static insert might fit the old 1700 body.

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    When I did the same research yr doing last year for my reno, I got the same strong recommendations for the Delta 1700. FWIW, I'm happy with it.

    One caveat: I got the standard trim. The pressure lever is hefty and solid, but the temperature control for that trim feels a little chinsy (it's plastic). I don't regret the decision but next time, I'd prefer to check out the trim in person b4 buying something from a catalog or online.
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    (important note: I'm not a pro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashster
    One caveat: I got the standard trim. The pressure lever is hefty and solid, but the temperature control for that trim feels a little chinsy (it's plastic). I don't regret the decision but next time, I'd prefer to check out the trim in person b4 buying something from a catalog or online.
    They only had one 1700 model in the store I was in, and the *spout* was really plastic-y...

    Are *any* of the 1700 series mostly metal anymore??

    .../j

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    The shower head was plenty hefty and solid for me. I didn't find it objectionable. Just the temp control lever on the valve trim.
    (important note: I'm not a pro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hj
    Some companies may still have some old stock, but the t'static insert might fit the old 1700 body.
    Thanks.

    Is the Thermostatic faster (or slower?) to react to changes in hot/cold water pressure changes (say, when someone flushes a toilet or when the washing machine is spraying during its spin cycle)?

    Is it that you can set your favorite shower temperature and it'll be the same all year long, regardless of the cold water temperature changing from summer to winter?

    i.e. In your opinion, what is the main advantage of the thermostatic version over the pressure-balanced version?

    Thanks!
    .../j

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    Grohe thermostatic valve claims to produce the exact tempature you set it at in 1/10 of a second.
    Pressure balanced valves will reduce the water flow equal to what is being used ie: if you flush a toilet the cold water is used and the valve will reduce the hot water really giving you no water until the cold stops being used.

    Pressure balance is fine if you want to control say a shower head and spout, but if you want to control shower head , spout , body sprays, handshower... and all at the same time you can only do that with a thermostatic control valve and volume controls.

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