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    We have 4 Moen 4600 faucets in our house. House built in 1969. One just started to leak and so I took it apart and pulled out the core of the cartridge leaving the sleave behind. I then broke off the ears of the old sleeve trying to pull it out. At that point I was just going to buy a new faucet but I decided to come find a forum which lead me here. SewerRatz post from 12/25/08 above made my day!! I bought a 3/8 dowel rod, cut 1.5 inch piece then used a 1/2 tap (the inexpensive T&D set that I bought did not have a 5/8) and I backed out the old ugly looking sleeve in about 2 minutes. I cleaned out the metal shavings, applied some plumber's grease to the cartridge, inserted it into the faucet and we have running water in that sink again. If any of the other three 4600 cartridges go bad before we remodel then I am set. Thank you very very much!!!! Dan
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    Talking Help!!!!

    I'm a single woman trying like heck to remove a Moen cartridge......
    It's a Moen Chateau sink faucet. I removed the retaining ring and I sprayed vinegar inside. I've tried all day long to pull that thing out and it will not come out!!!!
    I'm ready to take the pliers and just start swinging if I wasn't so tired from pulling on this thing......

    Any suggestions???? I mean, even if I buy a tool I don't think I have enough strength to do the job!!

    Little angry Irish lady in California...

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    Angry Moen Tub Faucet Problem - No hot water

    I get only cold water for my shower/bath. It's a single handle Moen posi (something) valve with a single handle operator. Question: Ok. The water is turned off and everything removable from the front is removed. Will repressuring the system "blow out" the barrel (extra pressure can be applied with air)? If this works then there is no "pulling" of any of the insides. Naturally, the shower head has to be removed and the outlet capped.
    If this will work there may be leaking at the spot where the "U-shaped" clamp is located, which means the water/air have to be shut off very quickly.

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    The answer to my post may answer others questions. Also, air pressure can be admitted through the outlet for the shower.

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    On the "no hot water" for the Moen tub shower.
    If you pull the cartridge, you can inspect to see if there is any dirt lodged in there.

    One time, I had fluctuating temps with a Moen valve, it turned out to be a small plastic ball in the line, it may have come from the water heater "heat trap" nipples.
    It would bounce around inside the pipes.

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    Default Moen shower faucet hard to turn off

    I'm also at the point where I have to remove the sleeve from my faucet.

    The problem I'm having is the faucet is incredibly hard to turn after 5-10min. of shower use. No leaks or drips, just very difficult to push in/off. The inner cartridge appears to be in decent shape. Any suggestions as to what would cause this? thanks in advance for any and all help.

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    Default moen cartridge removal

    A pipe easyout or a straight blade screwdriver works for me.Don't even own a regular moen puller.A couple of times I have removed the spout and used a little heat to remove a stubborn cartridge.Like Redwood said just rotate it to loosen it and then pull it out .

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    I seem to be reading tales from some "lucky people" who managed to wrest their Moen cores out without destroying the body. Unfortunately, others who try the same methods might not be so lucky. The proper tools, and the knowledge of how to use them, are critical in most cases. I have had to replace valves that were destroyed by "creative" DIYers trying to improvise their own methods of extraction. It did not make them feel any better when I told them it would have only taken a few minutes and a lot less of my time and their money, if they had called BEFORE starting, or at least stopped two minutes before the reached "their level of incompetence".

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    Well, I'm another hopeful Moen positemp cartridge replacer.....

    Managed to get the old one out, after buying the tool. Put the new one back in, no problem. However, with the cartridge all the way in, (as near as I can tell), I'm unable to get the horseshoe shaped pin all the way in enough to slide the housing back over it. I can see the little grooves it's supposed to slide into, but the cartridge doesn't seem to be quite far enough in for the ears to slide into the grooves.

    Any pointers?

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    I had the same problem with a 1225 cartridge for my shower. Hard to explain, but before you put the cartridge all the way in, pull the plunger piece (not sure exactly what it's called) out a little bit. This should seat the cartridge in far enough so you can insert the horseshoe pin in correctly. It took me a while to figure this out, trial and error. I am a novice

    Quote Originally Posted by im5150too View Post
    Well, I'm another hopeful Moen positemp cartridge replacer.....

    Managed to get the old one out, after buying the tool. Put the new one back in, no problem. However, with the cartridge all the way in, (as near as I can tell), I'm unable to get the horseshoe shaped pin all the way in enough to slide the housing back over it. I can see the little grooves it's supposed to slide into, but the cartridge doesn't seem to be quite far enough in for the ears to slide into the grooves.

    Any pointers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by walds11 View Post
    I had the same problem with a 1225 cartridge for my shower. Hard to explain, but before you put the cartridge all the way in, pull the plunger piece (not sure exactly what it's called) out a little bit. This should seat the cartridge in far enough so you can insert the horseshoe pin in correctly. It took me a while to figure this out, trial and error. I am a novice
    Thanks wald, can you describe what the you mean by the plunger piece?

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    Lately I have noticed that the positemp cartridges are a little bit longer (maybe 1/16") . Not noticeable. You probably have the brass "horseshoe" retainer clip. You may want to get the new retainer clip which looks like "wire", for lack of a better term. Its bent into the shape required for your set up.

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    The piece that pulls in and out of the cartridge housing.

    Quote Originally Posted by im5150too View Post
    Thanks wald, can you describe what the you mean by the plunger piece?

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    Thanks folks, I'll try and see if I can get the cartridge in a bit more, if not I'll see about getting another clip somewhere.

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    Did you check the bore of the valve to make sure all the rubber pieces of the old valve had come out?

    Frequently these may not all come out and will present a problem getting the new cartridge all the way in.

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