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    Unhappy cadet 3 tank sitting away from the wall

    I had a Cadet 3 installed yesterday. Before ordering, I measured from the wall to the center of the drain. It was 14 inches and so that I bought a 14 inch rough in. Why is it sitting almost 2 inches away from the wall? Will all 14 inch toilets do this? I don't like it and I have never noticed a toilet sticking out from a wall before!

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    Forum Admin, Expert Plumber Terry's Avatar
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    Most toilets do stick out from the wall a bit.
    It is rare that a tank would touch the wall.
    The Cadet 3 14", is a 12" bowl and a thicker tank (14)

    Even a Toto Vespin with a 14" Unift would have been out 1"
    The Toto would have pulled the bowl 2" closer to the wall.

    Toto Vespin II CST474CEFG with SS114 Softclose seat.
    This bowl was installed on a 13-1/2" rough-in using the 14" Unifit adapter.
    The water shutoff can be as close as 5-1/2" to the left of center, unless it's higher off the floor, and then it can be even closer to center.
    This shutoff had been replaced with a new 1/4 turn valve with brass nipple through the wall.
    Installation was by James Love of Love Plumbing & Remodel 206-949-5683
    In some of the older Seattle homes, the old toilets had been wall mounted tank toilets.
    Those typically are 14" rough-in and need a flange repair to use standard closet bolt connections at the flange.
    Everything is on the truck for that.
    The Vespin comes with a standard 12" adapter or you can order a 10" or 14" adapter depending on your rough-in distance.
    Last edited by Terry; 04-10-2010 at 04:58 AM.

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    DIY Junior Member Barney1's Avatar
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    I have the cadet 3 as well with a 12” rough in. I too have a 2” gap behind the toilet. I’m thinking about getting a 14” and that should push it back the 2” that I need. The problem is that I got my toilet from Home Depot and they don’t sell a 14” rough in. Where did you get yours? Thanks!


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