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    Default Gimme PEX education

    So far I have not run into pex but have seen it installed. I know that sooner than later I'll be called to install or repair something with PEX. I really need to know ALL about the tools required... what I need to buy to be set up for working with pex and installing it. In the house I'm building I plan to use LOTS of PEX... so that will be a very good education for me. You guys know of a site with an online manual or really good educational materials? I just need some really go info. From what I've read it seems that some think you have to have different tools for every different manufacturer...from what I see these tools ain't cheap ... that can be good for plumbers...keeps the DIY's out of the business .... but also, it appears that with PEX there is much less reason to call a plumber for repairs.

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    There is lots to read on it.

    Just do a word search and start reading?

    The tools are a little pricy but you only buy them once.

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    Yep.. thought of that...not much time today to weed thru it. Someone has a book for sale on that internet auction site. With shipping it seemed pricey for what should be available on the internet and probably free in several pamphlets from Wirsbo... figured someone would have a link to it...design considerations and informational materials.

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    Talking I was afraid of Wirsbo

    Probably the best you can get is the Wirsbo with the

    plastic rings that squeeze down on the pipe...

    That is the best to get ,

    Now the crimping rings..type Wirsbo scares
    me and reminds me of the old Poly -buteline and I wont use it....


    read that other post I just made.....

    it is very easy to work with. ...and it certainly dont freeze.....

    it saved me a lot of greif that I just repaired yesterday


    just go get the expansion tool kit for 1/2 + 3/4 and then fool around with

    about 15 dollars worth of fittings ......

    as long as you just cut the pipe square, and then put that outer ring
    on the inner with just a slight overlap it never fails.....



    Actually you can get the battery operated wirsbo tool for about 475
    from my supply house right now ...it saves on the fore-arms
    when fighting with the 3/4 and one inch size.

    I was afarid of it at first ....

    but then I realized that if an Aprentice plumber
    (basically a moron) can do it all day long

    it cant be that hard .....
    Last edited by master plumber mark; 12-14-2006 at 01:21 PM.

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    Hi guys. well, i hope it's as easy as you all say. I am remodeling my kitchen and ALL the plumber and I do mean ALL are at least two months out. so, to my question: house built 1947. downstairs all copper (late remodel) before we bought it. upstairs galvanized. When I tear out the plaster i am replacing with pex. What do I need? Thanks.

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    Go to a local supply house. They will probably specialize in one brand of PEX and will have the tools and fittings to go with that brand.

    You do need to think about sizing, because PEX is CTS ( OD) but thicker wall, so the ID is much smaller than copper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master plumber mark
    Probably the best you can get is the Wirsbo with the

    plastic rings that squeeze down on the pipe...

    That is the best to get ,

    Now the crimping rings..type Wirsbo scares
    me and reminds me of the old Poly -buteline and I wont use it....
    That expansion tool is what made me so grumpy in the first place!

    I couldn't imagine using it in a tight spot to fix a leak...there are new alternatives (Cass'll like this...) called "Sharkbite", that slip right over the PEX and VOILA!
    BUT...Like Mark just said...these fittings are new...I think of the whole controversy and headache that occured with PB years ago...I'm a wimp, I'll wait and watch what happens...at least for now
    "The biggest regrets we have in life are the chances we never took."

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    Here are some areas that I found info on PEX. Also got a set of crimp tools from here.
    http://cgi.****.com/SALE-new-ZURN-QE...QQcmdZViewItem
    Replace the **** with that name of that auction site on the web.
    Info:
    http://www.zurn.com/operations/pexrh...sApplGuide.pdf

    http://www.toolbase.org/PDF/DesignGu...esignguide.pdf

    I hope these links are OK with Terry.

    Ron

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    This is part of my "pro's" and "con's" list for PEX, more so for the "sharkbite" fittings.
    I went back to do some final touches on a baseboard job, went to clip down a line that was attached to a baseboard with a SharkBite coupling.
    As I pushed the line towards the wall the coupling weeped...only a little, and this is over a concrete floor so I won't obsess over it.
    It's the first time I've tried these...until it has more time in the field, I may hold off.
    I DID make sure the connections were completely into the hub, apparently the seals don't handle lateral movement very well, or I just had an isolated incident....verdicts still out.
    "The biggest regrets we have in life are the chances we never took."

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