Troubleshoot/Repair or Replace 10+ year old Hague?
Newcomer to the forum. Impressed by the knowledge and candor expressed by the regulars!
I have really bad "hard water" build up on the shower glass and water fixtures throughout my recently purchased home.
I inherited a Hague 13baq. I am guessing it is 10+ years old.
The unit was inactive/unplugged (not bypassed) for quite some time.
I recently restarted it (added salt) and the unit appears to be recharging. It is obvious, however, that I am still not getting "soft" water. I have also seen virtually no drop in salt levels for more than a month (no salt bridge)...
- "City Water" (it is well sourced nearby)
- Home Occupants: 7
- Water Usage: 11-14,000g/mo (466g/day average) peak is 1000g/day est.
- 5.5 Baths
- Very Heavy Laundry
- Very Heavy Kitchen Usage
- Water Pressure; Excellent 60psi+
- Main Line Pipe Size: 1-1/4"
- Current Hague Inlets: 1"
- NO LOCAL HAGUE DEALER
Here is the water analysis from the city:
- Should I spend the time/energy to troubleshoot the Hague device given it's mfg and lack of information/parts?
- If yes, can someone recommend a good troubleshooting guide for Hague? Where can I source parts?
- If no, I am looking for help sizing/selecting a replacement system...
- What size system should I consider? (my math indicates 2.0+cuft)
- I am open to TWIN tanks. Should I consider (require)?
- Any strong preference of brand?
- Does my water analysis suggest any special "features" or prefilters?
- What about "turbolators" or special resins?
My local water authority also suggested that my spotting problems could be created by SILICA or other "solids" that are "not removed" by a softener system. Can anyone comment on the truth in this statement??? Perhaps a combination of Salt Based Water Softening plus some other forms of filtration is required????
EDIT: Water authority indicated that while SILICA is not analyzed in the above data, there is evidence that high amounts of SILICA are present in the system.
Thanks a million in advance!
Clarification on "renting"...?
Thanks a million for the thoughtful reply!
Originally Posted by mialynette2003
I had arrived at largely the same conclusions.
Are you suggesting "renting" a water softener system? or something else? I have not heard of the option to rent a system although I agree with the idea...
My research about qualified folks here in Reno has not turned up any good candidates, so I suspect that I may find it difficult to find someone to rent from...
Assuming I go with a twin system, would you agree that a pair of 1.0 cuft tanks would suffice? I have the space and budget for a pair of 1.5 if recommended...
IF my problem has more to do with Silica than with hardness, can you recommend a solution? Is this simply whole whose backwash filtration?
EDIT: Apparently my Silica levels are in the neighborhood of 60. Also it appears that Silica removal on a home/usage of my size is cost prohibitive/difficult with today's tech (mostly RO)... So, for now, I am going to focus on water softening alone. I am headed down the path towards a new Fleck system. Only decisions left at this point are twins versus single and what SIZE.
Maybe a math or misunderstanding about hardness?
Thanks for this awesome reply! I think that there is a math problem or misunderstanding... and I think it is obviously CRITICAL to my design.
Originally Posted by lifespeed
My water analysis above indicates a hardness of 68-94 mg/L(ppm). I was under the assumption that this hardness translates to a maximum of 5.5 GRAINS (94/17.1). Therefore my peak usage at 1000 gals. would be 5500 grains/day max (2500 grains typical).
IF my math is accurate, my system requirements from a "grains" point of view ONLY is perhaps only 32,000 grains (1.0 cuft). I would lean towards 40,000 grains capacity.
All of that said, I am reluctant to introduce a 3/4" port into my home at the source. Therefore, my challenge is how to combine a relatively modest CUFT system with a 1" minimum valve.
According to the 9100sxt spec sheet from Pentair, there is a 1" internally ported version of this valve. OhioPure APPEARS to offer this valve in it's product line but I have not yet confirmed that they are referring to an INTERNAL 1" port of simply the bypass valve size. Will confirm shortly. The TANK port size is obviously a related issue.
Other online suppliers claim that the 9100 is solely available in 3/4" but I am not YET convinced...
Please confirm my MAJOR assumption above about my GRAINS. This must be the starting point.