Finally Found My Hero!!! And He Aint No Champion!!!
JUST TO LET ALL OF MY UNHAPPY CHAMPION OWNERS OUT THERE KNOW THAT.... THERE IS A COMPANY CALLED KORKY WWW.KORKY.COM THAT HAS RELEASED A FLUSH VALVE SEAL THAT REPLACES THAT WONDERFUL PIECE OF RED RUBBER WE ALL HATE SO MUCH. AND ITS AVAILABLE AT HOME DEPOT..... IN THE PLUMBING AISLE.... PART NUMBER 428BP... ITS IN A BLUE AND WHITE PACKAGE AND SAY IT FITS AMERICAN STANDARD CHAMPION FLUSH VALVE SEAL.... SUPPOSEDLY IT RESISTS CHLORINE TOO. I WILL KEEP YOU ALL POSTED AS TO HOW LONG IT LASTS..... AND BEST OF ALL ITS MADE IN THE USA!!!! THANK YOU KORKY....LAVELLE INDUSTRIES.....
The Answer To The Problem
Finally the answer to the leaking red gasket on the Champion Toilets. The Home Depot stores (at least in the north east) now have in a new Champion tank. It is called The CHAMPION 4. It is a direct replacement of an original champion Tank and will fit on any champion bowl. It has basically a plain 3 1/4in flapper instead of a flush tower. Also it has a Flat tank lid so you can store stuff on top of the tank. The model number on the tank is 4266014.020 and the Home Depot Sku is 872235. Iím sure if you complain to the store they will let you do an even exchange for the tank. It cost the same as the old tank. I hope this helps :)
American Standard Toilet From Hell
We also, have an AS Champion and have had this jewel for almost one year. It was touted as the best thing since sliced bread and with it's price it should have been. But it's not. It's the worst ripoff that I have suffered in my 62 years. I won't go into all of the problems with this piece of crap because they have been well covered on this forum but I do have three questions.
1. Is there any current or planned lawsuit against AS and all of the big box stores that sold this thing and refuse to make the bad ones right?
2. Do all of them make a loud thunk or crash sound when flushed and then all of the water shoots through in about three seconds?
3. Do all of them wobble in the back and cannot be tightened at all? Our installer broke two bowls trying to tighten them down and the sales folks at the Greenville, NC Lowes where we purchased it know absolutely less than nothing about how it's supposed to work. They could not answere ANY questions about the flush mechanism or the wobbling back. Also, does anyone else have a wooden brace built onto the back of theirs so that you feel safe when leaning back on the thing? One more, have you yet tried to tighten the bolts on most toilet seats that you attach to this thing? The bowl is designed so that you have to have a one inch wrist and fingers nine inches long to reach the nut on the seat bolt.
It's the worst thing to come down the pike in all my years. As soon as the gasket starts to leak like most of the posters have said, ours is going back to Lowes for a try at an exchange and after they refuse to do it, we are leaving it there and let them throw it in the dump where it belongs.
Why is Terry still sellling this toilet?
Given the pages and pages of negative reviews about this toilet I'm curious as to why Terry is still selling this toilet. I note the Briggs Vacuity toilet is marked as Not Recommended but this one is still being sold. Am I missing something?