Yep, bought a Champion BEFORE seeing this thread!
Went to Home Depot and fell for the golf balls advertising. Got a AS Champion 4. It was marked down to $150 from $218. Store said that someone had bought it assuming it was elongated and it was round (in the wrong box). They returned it without the box.
It looked to be brand new. In the process of installing it tomorrow.
Got this to replace a cheaper AS with the same 1.6 gpf. The main problem with the old one is it doesn't work. It never flushed properly, even after multiple flushes. The water just swirled around. Have plunged it many times. Has always been weak at flushing. Poked the holes around the rim. Replaced the water line. Still the same result. Yeah, I know I never learn.
Question is, knowing what everyone knows, what would you recommend me getting as extra parts for this new Champion 4 toilet as future parts that could/will break down?
I'm thinking that eventually AS will go out of business. Want to have extra parts to be able to fix without looking all over when/if that happens.
Well, what do you know!!!
Well, I was told...
Went to put in the AS Champion 4 today and noticed it had been patched in two places underneath with some kind of white stuff that didn't match the toilet. Also had some residual wax underneath where the original people who bought it had actually tried to install it looks like.
After seeing this, I took it outside onto our walkway and put a little water in the bowl, waited several minutes, and looked underneath. Sure enough, it was leaking water in two places underneath where the patchwork was.
Back to Home Depot it goes!!! Good thing I had not taken out the old one yet (an AS), even though it doesn't work.
I have learned my lesson. Going to get a Toto Drake.
Any suggestions for a good value on one in the Austin area?
By the way, we have very hard water (an old well) so wondering about the Drake if it uses parts that don't break down or rust.
Would it still be a good idea to get a brass or SS tank bolt set, or does the Drake come with one already?
Need list of replacement parts to install NEW Champion 4 and have leak free install
We need to replace toilets in our 19-20 yr old home and in the one bathroom we have a platform running above the tank, so can go with only 28 inch height. We are getting floor tile work done in the bath room in 10 days and want to replace toilets then, so our choices are to go with models available at HD or Lowes, and besides couple of less rated Kohler models (Wellworth, Santa Rosa) the only model that seems to meet our criteria is the AS Champion 4.
But after reading the leaking valve problems in other sites and then on this forum, I need to build confidence in decision to go with Champion 4.
So the main question: Is it possible to get a long (5-10yrs) leak free install with Champion 4?
I am willing to spend a little more in getting replacement parts vs using OEM part.
:confused: Need a recommended list of parts I should get in advance of our floor install based on the experiences folks have had.
I will be getting a plumber to get this installation as right as possible. :)