I just do not understand police in America

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10-28-2009, 05:23 AM
Cass

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Originally Posted by Ian Gills

I'm just gonna get out of the car if I am ever pulled over.

Getting out of the car, depending on the circumstances, is the quickest way to get a gun pulled on you...

And I don't know about you but I don't want the possibility of an AD to happen when a gun is pointed at me especially if there is no reason...

Just wait for them to approach and contact you before you do anything...
10-28-2009, 05:30 AM
Cass

As far as knives go I know a profesional knife fighter that if a gun was not pointed at him and he was within 5 feet of the gun holder could have him disabled before he could blink...but he is the exception...most people haven't the faintest idea how to use a knife corectly...
10-28-2009, 05:31 AM
Cookie

HA HA HA HA, very very funny Peter.
10-28-2009, 07:08 AM
Peanut9199

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Originally Posted by Cass

As far as knives go I know a profesional knife fighter that if a gun was not pointed at him and he was within 5 feet of the gun holder could have him disabled before he could blink...but he is the exception...most people haven't the faintest idea how to use a knife corectly...

Reminds me of James Coburn in the "The Magnificent Seven"
10-28-2009, 07:21 AM
Thatguy

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Originally Posted by Cass

As far as knives go I know a profesional knife fighter that if a gun was not pointed at him and he was within 5 feet of the gun holder could have him disabled before he could blink...but he is the exception...most people haven't the faintest idea how to use a knife corectly...

"In the Gravest Extreme" had a section on people who are good with knives.
10-28-2009, 07:31 AM
Ian Gills

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As far as knives go I know a profesional knife fighter that if a gun was not pointed at him and he was within 5 feet of the gun holder could have him disabled before he could blink...but he is the exception...most people haven't the faintest idea how to use a knife corectly...

Most English youths do.

Interesting profession being a professional knifefighter.
10-28-2009, 08:43 AM
Cass

He is responsible for training police and he teaches them what someone with a knife and knows how to use it can do to help them be prepaired...

That is why he is a professional...he was my instructor when I took my firearms concealed carry course...
10-28-2009, 09:31 AM
Scuba_Dave

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Originally Posted by Ian Gills

Wow. What a lively debate. I have learnt a lot.

Having read through your posts, some things surprise me about cops in the US and some don't.

Pulling people over for the slightest of reasons to check them out has always been a trick of all police. So I get that one. I was pulled over all the time as a kid. And once I was wearing a kilt!

But what shocks me a little more is that police here do seem to get away with being more violent. Elsewhere, if a shot gets fired or a fist thrown, then there is an enquiry. Here, the cop's word seems to be taken as golden. Many of my neighbors have warned me not to get cheeky with the police otherwise they will beat me. That just does not seem right.

And keeping your hands on the wheel if you get pulled over or you might get shot, is equally ridiculous.

I'm just gonna get out of the car if I am ever pulled over.

I have grown up with Police as neighbors & friends
Never get out of the car, keep your hands on the wheel
They may have pulled you over because a bad guy is driving a car like yours
That happened to me, had a long talk with the officer as I was restoring a '66 Mustang & he was restoring one too
Friends saw me pulled over & wanted to know what I did
I've always been polite when pulled over...usually just a warning
My friend was a jerk most times....and received tickets....his insurance was very high

Went out with an English girl & her friends in the car behind us were pulled over
So I pulled over as they were following us,she jumped out of the car to go back & see what was going on
Officer had a fit & told her to get back in the car....luckily we were all sober

That was actually a given when going out with the English girls - one was always the designated driver & sober
10-28-2009, 10:50 AM
Ian Gills

I'm still getting out. This is the land of the free. And I like some fresh air when talking to an officer.
10-28-2009, 10:59 AM
Cookie

Nothing is ever free, we pay a price for everything.
10-28-2009, 12:38 PM
Peanut9199

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Originally Posted by Cookie

Nothing is ever free, we pay a price for everything.

True here's your fresh air

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By the mid- to late-1990s, regulatory economists estimated that the Clean Air Act was costing Americans on the order of 1 to 2 percent of GDP per year—about $1,000 to $2,000 per household. The incremental costs of attaining the tougher ozone and PM2.5 standards that the EPA has adopted since then will likely add an additional $1,000 or so a year to the average household’s outlay, but will provide little or no incremental health benefit in return.
10-29-2009, 05:00 AM
Peanut9199

That's funny

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You ain't got a licence.

I guess he ain't got any education.

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Yes i bid on it, but i didn't have a contract.

That's what i do in my spare time i quote on jobs but i don't really want to do the jobs.

I can't believe Al Pacino went from acting to bidding on jobs without a licence.
10-31-2009, 10:42 AM
frenchie

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Originally Posted by Peanut9199

True here's your fresh air

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By the mid- to late-1990s, regulatory economists estimated that the Clean Air Act was costing Americans on the order of 1 to 2 percent of GDP per year—about $1,000 to $2,000 per household. The incremental costs of attaining the tougher ozone and PM2.5 standards that the EPA has adopted since then will likely add an additional $1,000 or so a year to the average household’s outlay, but will provide little or no incremental health benefit in return.
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I've seen estimates ranging from 20 billion a year, to more than 100 billion a year, as the supposed cost of the CAA. Hard to quantify that sort of thing...

Equally hard to quantify: wonder how much money it's saved us in medical bills, days off work due to respiratory illness, and so on? Also things like less maintenance on the exterior of your house, monuments, machinery, etc.

The EPA reckons we saved $45 for every $1 it cost to comply to the CAA. That's probably an over-estimate (they're not exactly likely to be neutral on this issue), but it's just common sense that it must have saved us something. I don't know where your quote is from, but I'd distrust any source that completely ignores the question.

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