Water backing up into tub and other bathroom
I'll start out by saying that I have a well & pump system and a septic tank.
After a severe leak over a year ago, two of my bathrooms are in the process of being remodelled/repaired. The half-bath is being used as storage space as it is too small to be used by most of the people in my household. We installed a Toto Drake w/ SanaGloss in the main bathroom over a year ago and were waiting for the floor to be repaired in the 2nd bathroom before installing another. (Btw, unfiltered/unsoftened water can stain the SanaGloss terribly-- getting the water filter and softener setup is a project on our long list of things to do).
A few weeks ago the sinks in the two adjacent bathrooms started gurgling whenever the toilet was flushed. I figured the septic tank needed to be cleared. Unfortunately nobody in my family listened to me and it became so full that sewage started backing up into the uncovered pipe in the bathroom that is under repair (there is no toilet in there, the pipe is open and I had been putting things over the opening to prevent odor from coming up). I finally called someone to suck the sewage out of the tank and he came the next day. Unfortunately, draining did not clear the problem and we had him come out a couple days later to use a really long snake to clear the clog (our own snake wasn't working). It was $100 just for the snaking and the guy indicated that he didn't really want to come back out again.
Yesterday the pipes started gurgling again and sewage came up the pipe in the bathroom again. Now the toilet will not flush. I tried clearing it with Liquid Plumber (the kind that is septic tank and plastic pipe safe-- for the record, I was against pouring stuff directly into the open sewer pipe-- I wanted to use the sink and tub that were being used frequently) and it seemed to work in the one pipe. I'm going to try it again in the sink and tub to see if that helps, but my father thinks that the pipe not having a toilet on it is what is causing the water to flow improperly. I've temporarily sealed it with Press'N Seal and put a paving stone on top to hold it down. Could the lack of a toilet there be the problem? I still think it's a clog.
Getting a plumber to come out where I live is not easy. The plumber who serviced this house for over 50 years is now in a nursing home and I'm not sure if there are any plumbers still in my town.
Any advice on how to fix this? (also, any advice on how to clean the mess up? My father tried to snake through the open pipe where the toilet used to be and it ended up spraying crap all over my walls-- and I'm apparently the only one in this house capable of cleaning anything).
When you've been pumped but still have a problem
I've had the problem in the past where the septic gets pumped, but the backup created clogs in the line usually where there are offsets or right at the tank access... Yes a rotating auger is the way to go to push out any waste that stayed in the line.. Those roto people do have the spinning cables, just ask for an estimate up front. It's not $100 any more.
Update: It was the Septic Tank and field line system
I realize that I never updated this thread.
I hope mamoose's issues were resolved.
My field lines were bad and my septic tank was not sufficient for the number of rooms in the house. It was designed for a one bedroom house and the house has 3 bedrooms. The field lines were not only full of crud, but they were too long and not at the right angle.
I had the old septic tank replaced with a two-chamber concrete septic tank with double the capacity. It is designed in such a way that it keeps the scum that floats at the top from going in to the second chamber. The old field lines were replaced with Infiltrator Systems segments.
Littlebrook was right about the guy who drains septic tanks needing to be replaced. He started badmouthing the health inspector, badmouthing the guy who designed the septic tank, and was just generally unpleasant. He charged $240. I later found out that he has multiple violations for not draining tanks all the way and has been fined- hence his anger toward the health inspector. The guy who installed the septic tank and field lines is the son-in-law of the guy who holds the patent on the septic tank that was installed. The sewage sucking guy started badmouthing the father-in-law to the installer's face. Turns out, the father-in-law used to hire him to suck the sewage out for jobs but the guy didn't drain them all the way and then charged more money to come out and finish draining them so the guy stopped working with him.
The good news is that the new tank only has to be drained once every 7 or 8 years so that gives me more time to replace the septic guy.
Something with the pipes under the house is not at the proper angle so we keep getting clogs. The plumber is refusing to schedule a time to come fix it because he doesn't like getting under houses but he can keep charging me to snake the cleanout.
I'm not even going to get in to the issues with the plumber and his last visit. I need to find a new plumber who won't overcharge and be a jerk. Next time I'm snaking it out myself.
I miss the old plumber but he passed just a few months after I posted this thread.
Also, I have since put a rubber cap in the toilet flange to keep any gases from coming up and the floor is almost finished (things were very hectic since my father passed away in March 2009 so a lot of projects were halted).
I have noticed that the clogs seem to occur during colder months so I wonder if something is freezing in the drain pipes.