TOTO Neorest 600 product review, MS990CGR

The TOTO Neorest 600, model MS990CGR toilet Review
Below is one just out of the box, ready to start installing.
http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_unboxed.jpg
We have already lifted off the washlet part, and set it aside. In the bowl, is the flange adapter and wall shutoff.
The back contains the floor template and mounting blocks.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_adapter.jpg
Here are two views of the flange adapter. We will be drilling six holes into the marble floor, and using anchors with screws.
Notice the upper drillings for the bowl mount from above. The bowl has a spigot that drops into the rubber sleeve.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_drill.jpg
Jamie of Love Plumbing & Remodel drilling the floor to take the adapter.
Notice the outlet for the electrical that the washlet uses on the wall.
Whoever had replumbed this home had put in some nice quiet cast iron drains.

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http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest_zoom.jpg
Neorest 600

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo..._installed.jpg
The adapter in place and ready for the bowl to be dropped down.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_floor.jpg

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_angle.jpg

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_angle2.jpg
Installed with the Washlet attached. The pictures don't show the clear caulking yet, that was done after the pictures were taken.

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http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_supply.jpg
The Neorest comes with it's own supply and supply tube. It's a 1/2" female thread on the back of the shutoff. Specs call for the shutoff to be a little higher off the floor, and 11-3/4" to the left of center. If someone knew that before the walls were in, that is where you could put it.
This bathroom was like most homes with the shutoff closer. The top fitting swings, which is good, it allows the connection without kinking the supply.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_600_top.jpg
I should have replaced the paper before this shot was taken.
The remote control was mounted on the cabinet to the left as you are looking at the bowl.
The neighbor next door, Kenny G, also has one of these.
I should have sold one of these to Will Smith, he bought a Washlet from me, but not the Neorest.
These are cool.

Nice features are:
Features:
Sleek, tankless, one-piece toilet with integrated Washlet seat.
New Cyclone Flushing system, no waiting for refill, no refill noise.
Skirted styling with concealed trapway for easy cleaning
Integrated Washlet features front and rear warm water washing, automatic air dryer and deodorizer.
SanaGloss: Super smooth, ion barrier glazing cleans your toilet bowl with every flush
Automatic Operation: Lid opens, closes and toilet flushes when sensor is activated.
Three Year Limited Warranty

Sleek, tankless, low profile elongated one piece toilet with integrated Washlet. Low consumption (6 Lpf/1.6 Gpf) Cyclone flushing action. SanaGloss glazing. 12" rough-in.

Tank cover, fittings, mounting covers and Washlet included.

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That sure looks like a compact unit, though I have to say one of the oddest
I've seen. Very nice. I imagine they cost a small fortune. Are parts readily
avail ?

Oh, I just saw the price...

bg,
Not in your budget this week?:eek:
Don't feel bad its not in mine either!

Terry was telling me that he installed one for Steve Ballmer the other day...
I wonder if this is pics from the installation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wR7NkeLMA08

I just wanna know...Who on this great blue and green ball needs a $2000 toilet??

Google the name in my post above. Terry has some customers that work for this little company... As you sit here reading this post there is about a 99.999% chance you are using one of their products as you read this unless you are a Mac user.

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Originally Posted by Squ1rrel

I just wanna know...Who on this great blue and green ball needs a $2000 toilet??

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With all respect, if you find that unit for 2000.00, you'll
be finding a good deal according to the "more info" link
Terry posted.

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Originally Posted by Redwood

bg,
Not in your budget this week?
Don't feel bad its not in mine either!

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No sir, it'd be a while before my 6 sees the likes
of that unit. I couldn't afford to buy the toilet paper
for it much less the unit, but it sure looks mighty fancy.
That's one unit one wouldn't want to mess up on the
install or drop while carrying it,etc. I got to say though
it should come with a radio or something for that price.

Thats the thing with that toilet...
You don't need toilet paper...
It washes and dries your 6 for you!

Who needs a radio when you have a toilet that does that!

Oh I didn't know it washed and dryed a person. It even comes with a remote control.
A warm seat, etc.

Yea, it's the Rolls Royce of the toilet world!

Hi,

I would like to install a Toto Neorest 600. I currently have a 1/2" water supply to my toilet. Could you please let me know whether I need to replace it with a 3/4" piping to get sufficient water flow for the Neorest 600. I heard from someone that even if the pressure is more than 20psi, unless the water flow is sufficiently high, the toilet may not flush satisfactorily.

I very much appreciate any help in this regard.

Thank you.

The Neorest comes with it's own supplied shutoff with 1/2" threads.
The 1/2" you have will work fine, you many need to move it some during installation.
Make sure you use the supplied hose connector for the water supply to prevent restriction.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neo_500_shutoff.jpg

Depending on how where the shutoff is located in relation to the bowl, makes a difference on how it's tilted.
If you look at the picture here, you notice how large the shutoff is?
There is a removable screen filter in the shutoff to prevent grit from clogging the bidet functions.
The can be removed and cleaned from time to time.
The connector is larger than normal, that is where you wouldn't want to restrict it.
A standard toilet supply that you find at the hardware store will not work.
You must use the TOTO supplied larger water supply.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest_stop.jpg

Be careful, I have the Neorest, used a 1" pex mainline to my bathroom during rough-in, and from there branched a 1/2" pex to the toilet 5 feet away. Although I get 60 psi at the toilet and roughly 9gpm flowrate, the inadequate pressure sensor light keeps going off, and more importantly, its a double flusher 75% of the time (very poor evacuation since this toilet is apparently more flow-dependent than pressure dependent, (nevermind the pressure sensor light, it should be a flow sensor light, cause my pressure is more than adequate). Toto was kind enough to comp a washlet (stating I shouldn't have used pex....hmmm? no mention in the manual) but I don't like the institutional look of hose and cords coming out the side of a retrofit lid that looks a bit like something out of The Matrix. The manual is obsolete in that it doesnt consider the pex revolution ( Toto said that 1/2" pex's smaller ID will restrict the required flowrate). Their PSI range requirements should be dismissed, and the flow rate requirement of greater than 9gpm should be highlighted in big big big bold letters. Beware. Too late for me since I have a concrete slab and redo would be a structural/cost prohibitive option. BEWARE

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Thanks for the comment.
One of the many comments plumbers have posted here when asked about PEX, is that it is quite a bit smaller.
The OD of PEX is the same as the OD of copper tubing, but since the walls are much thicker, the ID is reduced quite a bit.
Terry

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TOTO also makes an adapter, THU9046 to raise the Neorest 600 to an ADA height.

Here are some pictures.

http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest600_eddie_4.jpg

The adapter


http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest600_eddie_3.jpg

Moving the shutoff toward the left


http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest600_eddie_1.jpg
Seat down


http://www.terrylove.com/wc/toto/neorest600_eddie_2.jpg

Seat up.