Rental House Toilets

[John Barnhill]

Thanks for this Forum! I've learned a ton this weekend reading posts.

I own a number of rental houses. All 3 bedroom, 2 bath, 1100-1200 SF.

I need to replace 2 builder-grade toilets (Home Depot house brand) in a house built in 1998.

I went to Home Depot and decided on Delta Foundations C43913 which have a MaP score above 1000. However, I continued to search online because I was disappointed in the fact the toilet had a 2" trapway.

Coming here, it seems the Toto Entrada is a much better option from a quality perpective.

I have Toto's in my personal house and have always preferred them.

The economics are as follows.

Deltas are $120 each and Entrada's are $220 with seat and seal.

Either the Estradas need to last 60% longer to justify the higher price, or avoid a single plumber's service call in the life of the toilet.

For my application, are the Toto's worth the additional investment?

Thanks all.

John

 

[Terry]

They both have trapways that are 2" which for most people is just fine. They both have 3" flush valves from the tank to bowl. I do like the trapway design of the Entrada a bit better with the long sweep it provides. For most people either should work with the slight edge to the Entrada for the trapway.

 

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[Reach4]

Just thinking... If I were shopping as a landlord, I think I would like to see the hole from the bowl to the trapway to be smaller. If something is going to clog, stop it where it is visible. I don't know what toilets would be best in that regard.

 

[John Barnhill]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I was sure you would say the Delta is junk and has a lousy track record.

On a non-related topic, we are designing a new home and my wife wants wall-mounted toilets. Is the Toto decent or would we be better off with a tankless design?

 

[Terry]

On a non-related topic, we are designing a new home and my wife wants wall-mounted toilets. Is the Toto decent or would we be better off with a tankless design?

The wall mount TOTO are in-wall tanks with a carrier that fits between studs. These use a standard 1/2" water feed. They work fine.

You're not thinking commerical bowls that use a flushometer are you? Those take a 1" supply line.

 

[WJcandee]

The Toto wall-mounts are great. We have both Toto and Duravit in a beach house and I like the Totos much better, both for appearance and performance. They work on both Geberit and Toto in-wall tanks, and I at least am indifferent between the two.

If by "tankless" you mean the flushometer toilets that Terry is mentioning, I don't think they provide any benefit in a private home.

I would be unlikely to call anything made by Delta "junk". I do think the Entrada is better-looking. Some of the Delta toilets used to have (maybe still do have) non-standard parts. But it looks like what is in the one you mention is standard stuff. I know that when selling houses, the bathroom and kitchen strongly influence buyer decisionmaking; I assume the same goes for rentals, so maybe a little nicer bathroom, hence a little nicer toilet, gets you a little better tenant. One of those intangibles.