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HJ, Thanks for that. So, the demon in the mix appears to be the pilot light - around the world there might be as many as say, one billion (i've no real idea) pilot lights burning up one big PG&E bill when its all totalised. We owe our grandkids better.

dgold, Have you now changed out the water heater, or merely fixed it up a little? Perhaps post pics showing both(?) appliances and how the common vent leaves that room/space? A drain pan might be a good idea. The pump appears to be blocking access to the burner cover - what is the pump...

I'm with Mark on this and his general take on valves. I've learned from him. Caduceus, you dont actually say anything beyond a general ramble, for example, i'm sure that most folks know that there are different types, makes and makers, of w/h's out there. I'm also sure that you have much...

Thank you both very much for your informative replies.

Are gas water heater timers worthwhile? I've never seen one in operation, and the reports by consumers and plumbers are mixed. The energy lost in make-up time seems to be the main criticism of gas w/h timers. However, this seems like a replay of the arguments of some time ago that a...

Terry, this post has nothing to do with the above - I dont think so, anyway. I'm having difficulty reaching the terrylove.com site except by a roundabout route. I keep getting directed to an international web page hosting site. It's not major, but it's a nuisance. Perhaps you can help?

You have cracks in the floor slab and water can be seen seeping through. Seal the cracks as the other guy said. Do you have guttering - to my mind, a necessity in a freeze zone, esp. if you have a basement. Gutter down pipes should lead to falls, away to a sump. Grade around the house should...

The forum at waterheaterrescue.com site seems to have disappeared, and an email to them is rejected as a spam suspicious email. I'm a long time registered member so this is odd. Anyone else use them, and is also having difficulties with the site?

I've noticed a few posts on the issue of bonding at the water heater. FWIW: So. Ca. Gas have a regulation, "No Bonding at the water heater" - it's not permitted because they consider it to be an unsafe practice.

Ref. gas meter code req's. for an externally fixed meter. I've just read in another place claims that, One, 3/4" plugged test tee's are not typically required in the gas pipework immediately after the gas meter. If this is correct, then how do you test the installation? Two, that after...

Could anyone direct me to a diagram/pics of a multi-head shower rough-in?

Thank you both for your replies. Sorry for the delay, I've been on an enforced absence. I guess this subject is now dead, but i do still wonder.

Tempering valves(T/V) used with residential water heaters (W/H) - aka ( i believe ) Thermostatic mixing valves. 1. Their main function appears to be to protect from scalding, ( how often do first line of scald defence, residential w/h thermostats fail without isolating the gas/power?) 2...

Thank you both for replying. hj, i will answer in a while.

jadnashua, thank you for your post ref. New England code req's. Do you have any diagrams or pics of approved N.E. installations with both fittings in place? I ask because diagrams and pics on the web show all manner of confusing arrangements where tempering valves are installed in residential...

Not sure if i grasp hj's argument, but for what it's worth: 1. the 1/8th hole near the top of the dip tube is called an anti-siphon hole ( for occasions of negative pressure ) and described as such by some mfr's of dip tubes and water heaters. 2. siphonage, as i understand it, is suction and...

Just a quick resurrection for my Feb 2012 question. Any comments or opinions, because, believe me, what the country needs now is a damn good cup of coffee and a blitz on plumbing junk. Perhaps the issue can be raised in the next "debate" between the two guys who most faithfully represent big...

jimbo, AAMOI: how do the lyrics of "Dock of the Bay" fit in with the above post's? Just curious.

Jimbo, With respect, I dont think that Bobby Darin ever recorded "Sitting On The Dock Of The Bay". It was Otis Redding's last song, of course. Both magnificent artists.

Back in the day, i worked as an operative for Termite companies and, i'd say, on 60% of positive inspections, water damage from plumbing was called. One morning i pulled and re-set six different, leaking WC's in six different houses. Upper floor WC leaks were the homeowner's nightmare. One...