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  1. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    Good point. It probably is steel and no way could I handle that.
  2. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    I already bought the tripod pipe. It was $30 total. I have some scrap steel that I can make the top tie in point. A cheap 3000lb 12v is $50-$100. I figure I will have less than $150 into the tripod. I also have access to a case 580E backhoe that would work for pulling the pump. I was going...
  3. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    Even with a SF of 1.6 for the 1/2HP pump it would still only max. out at about 5 amps during run. Starting current is probably about 20 amps. The 12-2 w/ground is fine for the length of the wire.
  4. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    It is a 1/2 HP 240v motor. Using ohms law and assuming a .8 PF it is below the recommended 3% loss. Start up current will drop more. If you factor in the temperature of most of the wire in terms of resistivity then it gets even better. The 12/2 w/ground is fine for this app. in terms of...
  5. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    One other thing about the ground wire. When I do installs on a car that have dangling wires I use a piece of sealed heatshrink like the kind used on the well pumps. The kind which oozes glue when heated. I place it over the end of the wire. This allows me to be able to use the wire later on...
  6. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    Thank you. I didn't know the ground wire was a recent addition to the motor. I agree about the lightning strike being unpredictable. The ground wire can help, but it can't be a guarantee that it will save the pump. Is it common practice to replace 20 year old wire in a well? I work on a lot...
  7. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    When the pump started acting up I looked up material cost. I new what a pump assembly, wire, pipe, etc cost before the well company looked at it. I also tested and new the pump or motor or both was bad. I was unsure if the original 20 year old pump was in the hole. Overall, they did a good job...
  8. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    The original 2-wire w/o ground GOULDS pump was install in 1990 when the place was first built. So it lasted 20 years. The new Franklin pump ($1200) is a 2-wire w/ground pump. When they said the original 2-wire needed to be upgraded to w/ ground I was OK with it, but not happy about the $1.81/ft...
  9. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    You are correct. My statement was wrong. I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. Assuming a max. of 25 ohms at the two ground connections and a 0 ohm path (almost impossible) in the earth itself gives: 220 / (25+25+0) = 4.4 amps. That would not trip the breaker. What is the purpose...
  10. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    I completely agree. The only proper way to connect the ground is from the pump ground wire to the panel. When they installed my new pump that had a ground wire they said they had to replace the existing 2-wire w/o ground with a new 2-wire w/ground. Since there was not an existing ground wire...
  11. turbotech

    Did I just screw up???

    Thank you for the link. I was surprised that only regular stainless steel screw clamps were used to hold the pump assembly to the poly pipe. I figured it would be more exotic. Something like the clamps I use for doing EFI fuel line or the T-bolt clamps I use for build turbocharger piping.
  12. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    What is the purpose of this new ground wire? If a hot wire breaks and hits the well case then the ckt breaker will trip with the old 2-wire w/o ground. If a hot wire breaks and hits the well cap with the new 2-wire w/ ground then the ckt breaker trips. If the well cap was designed for a good...
  13. turbotech

    well pump ground wire

    Something about the ground wire dawned on me the other day after having my well pump replaced. The original pump that failed had 2-wire 12 gauge w/o ground. The new pump had 2-wire 12 gauge w/ ground. The installers simply connected the new ground wire to the well cap. They did not run it...
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    Did I just screw up???

    I am new so this may be a dumb question. What does it take longer to make the connection to 160 or 200 psi pipe? Are there any threads describing how to properly do all 3 PSI rating connections? Is the connection done by warming the pipe and installing the fitting, then use two screw clamps...
  15. turbotech

    new well pump and other stuff

    When I used the tool to do the search it came up with using CSV and CSV1Z. I thought they both had to be installed. Are you saying that I could just install the CSV1Z right before the pressure tank? Would it go before the pressure tank check valve or after it? The picture at...
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