When I was 16 anyone over 30 was old but not that I am 62 anyone under my age is young. I think it is in the mind of the one making the statement “old”How old is old?
Style. The NEC says that we can have up to six main disconnects which this panel was designed to have but someone has altered this rule with tandem breakers which is non-compliantIs split buss a brand or a style.
As it is set up now you are correctAm I correct in thinking there should be a main shutoff above the breaker? Where the two large wires come into the box from top.?
If I ran across this panel in my work I would post a correction with the owner of the home giving them 30 days to correct or they would lose power until corrections were effected.Obviously I don't expect you to make any difinitive comments since u can't see it in person, but just how wrong is it wired?
Both. I would say this is one of those installations that works but is far from safe. As a code enforcement official I would condemn the installation.Is it a total nightmare or Frankenstein?
When I was 16 anyone over 30 was old but not that I am 62 anyone under my age is young. I think it is in the mind of the one making the statement “old”
Style. The NEC says that we can have up to six main disconnects which this panel was designed to have but someone has altered this rule with tandem breakers which is non-compliant
As it is set up now you are correct
If I ran across this panel in my work I would post a correction with the owner of the home giving them 30 days to correct or they would lose power until corrections were effected.
Both. I would say this is one of those installations that works but is far from safe. As a code enforcement official I would condemn the installation.
As Pete pointed out finding a cover for this panel would be like finding a needle in a hay stack.
quote; The "association" came out and took a picture of his work, then sent a mailing to ALL the residents stating that, "this in NOT how we want your properties to look. We want to maintain the appearance of a "natural" area, so do NOT clean up or trim ANYTHING".
I have two questions.
1. Does anyone know what box this is? I need to get a cover.
2. Is this a subpanel or is it a main with no main cut off switch installed?
Two simple questions. I know its wrong on several levels.
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OK. I hear what you are all saying.
So the top six should be the main.
This was absolutely done without permits.
But... I don't own the house yet and the seller will be fixing this and he is a liar in general.
That being said.
A few questions:
Can the breakers be shifted down to open up the top six for a main?
Can a separate main be added? Maybe outside?
It looks to me that the top left breaker is being used as the main. I see two big wires coming off of it.
Or is that the 220 going to the oven.
I see three empty slots, but it looks like there are jumpers coming off that. I put a few arrows and ? in the pic.
If we could find a cover for this could it be salvaged?
Can we add a separate main?
I see all the double breakers... What exactly does that mean?
From what I hear the seller's are beyond reasoning with.
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Frankly I would rather he just give me a credit of $2500 rather than have him replace it himself.
Not necessarily. A non-CTL twin will pop right in.In the majority of cases, if the spot was NOT rated for a split breaker, it would be "rejected" and not go into the space.
I am the agent and the buyer. I guess I should just quit.Do you mean to imply that he would DO the work himself, or hire a licensed contractor to pull the permit and get an inspection?
Your agent is utterly incompetent if he cannot make perfectly clear that only the second is acceptable.
That is what agents get paid for.
This is awkward, but...
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