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Verdeboy
10-19-2006, 09:27 PM
I'm supposed to show someone how to use and maintain a pellet stove, but I've never used nor maintained one. Can anyone make me look smart here?

Cass
10-20-2006, 04:12 AM
Try Googling it.

Mikey
10-20-2006, 05:47 AM
When in doubt, tell the truth. Google the hell out of it to get basic knowledge, make sure you've got the owner's manual for the specific stove you're to become an expert on, and spin it a bit: "You know, Charlie, I don't have any experience on your particular stove, but with my other experience and the owner's manual, you and I are BOTH going to become experts." If you're lucky, he'll supply the beer.

Verdeboy
10-20-2006, 11:04 AM
I've tried Googling for a bit and wasn't getting anywhere; hence, this post. I know Jadnashua has discussed this topic before and I was looking for his and others' input.

Mikey
10-20-2006, 12:56 PM
http://hearth.com/what/pellet/pellet1.html

http://www.canren.gc.ca/renew_ene/index.asp?CaID=47&PgID=1142

Verdeboy
10-20-2006, 06:31 PM
http://hearth.com/what/pellet/pellet1.html

http://www.canren.gc.ca/renew_ene/index.asp?CaID=47&PgID=1142


...plus many links in the above, such as



My crack research team came through.

Thanks, Mikey!

Mike50
10-22-2006, 11:27 AM
I'm supposed to show someone how to use and maintain a pellet stove, but I've never used nor maintained one. Can anyone make me look smart here?

I've had mine for over 4 years now. What do you need to know exactly?
Here are some tips:

1. Only use premium pellets
2. There are several ways to light one if stove doesn't have starter.
3. Empty bag to fill up hopper up to capacity. (usually 40 lb bag)
4. Flu should be cleaned as with wood stove. (buy flexible rod and brush from dealer)
5.Once a year: Open door/panel where electronics are and very gently vacuum circuit boards/controls etc with
shop vac or regular vac with hose)
6. Only use qualified Pellet stove technicians. These are complicated devices.
7. Don't freak out if the hopper "screw" feeder jams on occasion. It happens
even on the best units available.
8.if the stove doesn't have a starter-gel starter is available
9. If hopper dumps too many pellets and extinguishes combustion, simply lower the setting.
10. After lit-leave it alone. When turning stove OFF the fan will continue to operate for 15-20 minutes. This is normal-safety feature.
11. Ash pan does NOT need to be emptied daily. I only empty mine about once per month. You may need to do it more frequently.
12. Stove is equipped witha "pull rod" that scrapes some internal ash that you cannot get to.

We have another pellet shortage this year. If you can afford it-buy an entire pallet. I buy around 10 bags at the time for storage reasons.
When pellets are available-buy-buy-buy before you need them!
If you don't keep a good supply-you will be spending some chilly nights!

Walmart has lowest prices-around here anyway. Dealers in many cases carry better pellets.
You will pay 1-2 dollars more.
"Low ash" is key.

Pellet stoves create about 96% less pollution than standard wood stoves.

I am not an Expert-Follow instructions/dealer advice. Find "Wood Pellet Institute" for reliable links.

Hope that helps.

Mike

Verdeboy
10-22-2006, 12:11 PM
The person I need to help is moving into a new house that has one of these, so I don't even know what it looks like. I don't know if it is self-lighting or if I need to light it. I don't know if the pellets are fed from the top or the bottom. I don't know if it has a thermostat of some kind or not.

I would like to be able to get the thing lit for her and make sure that the flu and ash pan are clean. What are the different ways you can light it? Do you need one of those long lighters or matches, and, if so, where exactly do you place the lit end of the match? Also, how do you clear out a jammed screw feeder. At what point does the fan go on? Do you light it first and then plug it in?

Thanks

Mike50
10-22-2006, 01:47 PM
The person I need to help is moving into a new house that has one of these, so I don't even know what it looks like. I don't know if it is self-lighting or if I need to light it. I don't know if the pellets are fed from the top or the bottom. I don't know if it has a thermostat of some kind or not.

I would like to be able to get the thing lit for her and make sure that the flu and ash pan are clean. What are the different ways you can light it? Do you need one of those long lighters or matches, and, if so, where exactly do you place the lit end of the match? Also, how do you clear out a jammed screw feeder. At what point does the fan go on? Do you light it first and then plug it in?

Thanks

Plug it in first. It probably has an automatic starter so dont worry about it. If not PM me and I'll give you details of all lighting options. Easiest is put a hand full of pellets into
the burning recepticle and put lighting Gel on pellets (in burn tray) NOT IN HOPPER. as instructed on bottle.
Turn fan on after you have it lit. thats it..

The burn tray looks like an ashtray with holes in it. (pellets drop into tray) Use regular size match to light it if using gel.

Most/Many models do not have a thermostat. That is generally an option.
Pellets are fed from the top.
I am sending you PM Verdeboy. I can explain this simple procedure better.
Very easy-much safer than wood stove--it has auto-shut down.

**After lit make sure to turn feed/hopper switch "on".**
It is probably a separate switch.

Mike

Mike50
10-22-2006, 01:56 PM
Mine is Prescott model at this url:
http://www.eventempinc.com/stcroix/stoves/stoves.html

Pellet Institute with Links:
http://www.pelletheat.org/3/industry/retailersOnly.cfm


Most of the time if the screw jams you will have to call the technician.
On my model some expensive circuit boards need to be removed to gain access to the screw. Personally...? I'm not comfortable doing it myself.
My tech charges 50-75 dollars to clear it. It has happened about once every 2 years.

This does Not mean you have a "lemon". It just happens.
Just because your toilet gets clogged doesn't mean you have a bad toilet.

Dealers will tell you it's because you aren't buying their pellets. yea...right.
It's caused by a build up of residual sawdust and/or clinkers.

Verdeboy
10-23-2006, 12:36 AM
Thanks for all the information. I think I know enough to at least fake like I know something about this.

Mike50
10-26-2006, 12:11 PM
And BTW Verdeboy: Tell the owner to not believe it when dealers or especially Walmart or big box about pellet supply availability for the season. No one knows for sure.

There are currenty 400,000 Pellet stoves in the US.

If everyone buys by the pallet this winter--there will be a shortage.
If gas prices rise-shortages can happen.

Very cold winters in some parts of the US-people can use 2-3 TONS.

Personally, I use around 1 ton myself (40-50 bags). Our winters are short in SoCal.


A very rough estimate for your area is
somewhere in the neighorhood of 75-95 bags with obvious varying factors. IOW they need to get busy. ;)

Rancher
10-26-2006, 01:59 PM
How many bags on a pallet?
How much does a bag weigh?
What's the going price per pallet?

I realize the price is probably location dependant

Rancher

Mike50
10-26-2006, 04:07 PM
How many bags on a pallet?
How much does a bag weigh?
What's the going price per pallet?

I realize the price is probably location dependant

Rancher

Should be a ton on a pallet-50 bags
Bags weigh 40 lbs.
No volume discounts

1 Bag at Walmart this season is $4.97
Local Pellet Stove dealer price ranges around $6.50

1 ton pallet at Walmart is $248.50.

And that is the total cost to heat my home this winter, which ain't to shabby..
Electric needed to run fan isn't worth adding in to cost.

Verdeboy
10-26-2006, 05:21 PM
Do you have any idea what sort of pollutants a pellet stove generates? I'm guessing it's better than burning straight wood, but not as good as natural gas.

jadnashua
10-26-2006, 05:32 PM
Done right, there is very little creosote with a pellet stove. Some of them come with or can be fitted with a catalytic converter to help remove some of the nasties from the flue gasses.

Verdeboy
10-26-2006, 05:37 PM
Done right, there is very little creosote with a pellet stove. Some of them come with or can be fitted with a catalytic converter to help remove some of the nasties from the flue gasses.

That's great. Maybe it will be a viable alternative once the natural gas supply is depleted. Maybe they can manufacture a car engine that runs off of those same pellets.:)

Mike50
10-27-2006, 07:21 AM
Done right, there is very little creosote with a pellet stove. Some of them come with or can be fitted with a catalytic converter to help remove some of the nasties from the flue gasses.

First I've heard about it Jim and it's worth looking into. I'm not aware of any stoves here that fitted with a CC. Reason being is the effiency is around 98.5 compared with traditional wood stove at around 50-70%

Many states have bans/laws on (non pellet) wood stoves.

Rancher
10-27-2006, 07:28 AM
That's great. Maybe it will be a viable alternative once the natural gas supply is depleted. Maybe they can manufacture a car engine that runs off of those same pellets.:)

I remember an old move... Humphrey Bogart? Where they were in some jungle area and they ran a bus using coconut fumes... sounded pretty bizarre at the time, but probably doable.

Rancher

Mike50
10-27-2006, 07:38 AM
The good stoves are really new technology. I'm waiting for newer models that I can clear myself and put out even more heat and larger fans.

I'll trade this one in or sell it. Used stoves sell in the 500 dollar range-but I wouldn't buy one.


Anyone looking to buy a Pellet Stove should really consider one that burns corn as well
depending on supply in your area.

PEW
10-27-2006, 09:48 AM
Current issue of This Old House magazine has an article on them you may want to read.

Paul

Mike50
10-27-2006, 10:54 AM
Current issue of This Old House magazine has an article on them you may want to read.

Paul

I read it. Unfortunately the only product featured is called a "Promethius Basket" which is not an actual pellet stove and is no longer manufactured
according to recent consumer reports.

Energies
06-12-2007, 06:05 AM
"Hi guys,

I would like to recommend this website:

E.nergi.es - wood pellets, shelled corn, other biomasses and stoves company directory and product reviews (http://e.nergi.es).

Itís a community-driven website where anybody can add a company, info about a product and, most important, review companies and products for the benefit of other people.

Why don't you add information or reviews about your favourite stove?

Regards

freebird77
07-01-2007, 05:09 AM
Hi I just had a new Harmon p61 installed. It has a room temp sensing probe. But it just lays behind the stove on the floor. Should I run this out and extend it up on the wall for better operation,or just leave it where it is? It seems like it would cause the stove to run more then needed since, of course, its colder down on the floor. Appreciate any help, and like to hear from those of you that might have the Harmon p61. Thank you