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The "flanged" wax rings are somewhat easier to install and remove than the plain wax rings. If your toilet flange is slightly lower than the floor, a thicker wax ring may be used or, in some cases, two wax rings (the top one should not be flanged, in order to get a good seal).
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Cookie said:I don't know the answer to that, I am not a plumber. But, I was told the other day, that they make, " time released ones" see, under the post, Mark up, under Plumbing. Not sure how true this is.Maybe, you could ask..
I think someone was yanking your chain.
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It is the other way around.
1 Most plumbers do NOT use the wax ring with a funnel.
2. Some plumbers DO use the one with the funnel.
3. If you are going to use two wax rings, the one on the TOP should be the one with the funnel so it keeps the lower one without one lined up.
1 Most plumbers do NOT use the wax ring with a funnel.
2. Some plumbers DO use the one with the funnel.
3. If you are going to use two wax rings, the one on the TOP should be the one with the funnel so it keeps the lower one without one lined up.
I seldom used the seal with a horn also. People think a seal with a horn is better, but I found that not to be true.
Usually when a seal leaks, it doesn't leak at the bottom of the seal, it leaks where the seal touches the china.
Usually when a seal leaks, it doesn't leak at the bottom of the seal, it leaks where the seal touches the china.
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I have had excellent result with the Fluidmaster waxless rings, but either wax or waxless work quite well if the flange is solid on the finished floor surface and the toilet is set properly. I think the horn is supposed to guide the toilet so that it sets better, but ???
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I'm not a pro plumber. I've just been DIY plumbing for more than 50 years (about to hit 64). I agree with hj and plumber1.
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Cookie said:I don't know the answer to that, I am not a plumber. But, I was told the other day, that they make, " time released ones" see, under the post, Mark up, under Plumbing. Not sure how true this is.
As some of you know, I have been helping out a plumber friend who is having health problems. I learned an interesting lesson today which actually touches on another post here about a sweating tank. Homeowner has his toilet piped into a hot water line. Seems like every 8 to 10 months, he gets a leak at his wax ring. The guy who I was helping out looks at me, and says "Rob, what do you think hot water feeding a toilet does to a wax ring?" Never really gave it a thought before. Then he points out the few times when a toilet gets used sucessively, and he also points out the small amount of water that escapes the bowl upon a refill after a flush. Food for thought, huh?
Verdeboy said:So, what you're saying is that hot water is required to activate the "time release" wax rings?
Lol! Exactly! By the way, I really have a lot of respect for you guys. Im learning that this kind of work is not for me. I much prefer to spent my nights sleeping for 8 hours without a ringing telephone at my head!
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Unless we survey a statistically significant number of plumbers, we are probably only guessing at this.
My unscientific survey is from the plumbes at the supply houses. I see very few who buy them, and almost none who have a good word for the horned ones. I am surprised he does not have to replace the toilet at the same time the wax ring fails. A lot of them would crack the tank from the thermal shock of hot water entering a cold tank, or toilet.
Unless we survey a statistically significant number of plumbers, we are probably only guessing at this.
My unscientific survey is from the plumbes at the supply houses. I see very few who buy them, and almost none who have a good word for the horned ones. I am surprised he does not have to replace the toilet at the same time the wax ring fails. A lot of them would crack the tank from the thermal shock of hot water entering a cold tank, or toilet.
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I also would like to know about experience with the Fluidmaster device. Or an equivalent.
I am concerned about the performance of the wax rings in a heated floor and would like to use something else.
I am concerned about the performance of the wax rings in a heated floor and would like to use something else.
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I've not had any problems with the FLuidmaster waxless and in-floor radiant heat. It's only bee a few years, though, so long-term is a ways away.
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