Need help with whirlpool tub rough-in!

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I need to install a Hansgrohe whirlpool rough-in (valves, faucet, handshower) in a pretty tight whirlpool tub enclosure (tighter than I expected!). The rough-in comes with short 1/4" type "K" copper tubing (3/8" OD) which puts the individual components on 5" centers using compression fittings. I've only got one location for which this will work and accessibility after I drop in the tub will be nil. I'd like to separate the valves from the faucet (with diverter) and handshower, but I don't know how best to do the connection over what will be a 4-5' run. Certainly, I don't want to run 3/8" OD flexible copper as I'd be concerned about diminished flow - I need to get 60 gallons into this tub. I can run 1/2" copper pipe, but what then is the best way to terminate the copper pipe and then connect to the rough-in?

After looking over the options it seems like a 3/8" to 1/2" compression coupling should do the trick, but is there anyway to avoid the stub of 3/8" OD pipe between the valve and the compression union? If I have to go this route I'll make sure to support the 1/2" OD soft copper very near valve.

I can plumb around this tomorrow, but I've got to get this figured out soon!

Rick
 
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This is when using pex is so helpfull.

It's flexible, and won't kink like soft copper.
I wouldn't run less than 1/2" for a tub like that.
 
If i use pex instead of the 1/2" copper I think i will still need a pex-to-3/8" compression coupling unless there is a way to connect the pex directly to the 3/4" fitting on valve and faucet side. Am open to suggestions!

I did check with Hansgrohe and they said the short stub of the type K would support 12 gpm.
 
faucet

12 gpm but at what velocity? I have never seen a Roman tub faucet with less than 1/2" stubs on it, (in fact 3/4" is more the norm), but maybe Hansgrohe decided to save money by going undersized.
 
I haven't calculated the velocity, but it's going to be very high in a 1/4" ID pipe. That's life, I guess. Hopefully, things don't wear out too fast. I've looked at other Hansgrohe rough-ins and the fittings are definitely larger. I won't actually be drawing 12 gpm in any event, but I don't want to add to the problem when I remote the faucet.

Pex or similar would be better between than 1/2" between valve and faucet since I would like to keep the short stub of 3/8" OD on each end (necessary because of the size of compression fitting) to an absolute minimum length. If I use rigid copper between the valve and faucet locations I'll need several inches of the 3/8" in order to have enough "play" to insert the soft copper into the compression fittings. Does anyone make a coupling that transitions 1/2" (or larger) pex to a 3/8" compression fitting?
 
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