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Abouthadit
05-31-2012, 04:01 PM
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Trying to see if pictures downloaded ....
If so questions to follow :D

Terry
05-31-2012, 04:05 PM
And the question is?

Cookie
05-31-2012, 06:48 PM
I don't know what your question is, but, I love your fireplace, it is very pretty. :)

Abouthadit
05-31-2012, 06:57 PM
First off sorry for the pic being so big !
Ok trying to post up next picture, hope it not too small ???

Ok we removed the rock /drywall and now looking at frame work and an open cavity with fireplace metal flue . Inside the garage it is boxed out abit for the fireplace.
The drywall came off in chunks with the rock/concrete.

Can we simply re drywall to the edge of the fireplace , then put up a mantel ? or does there need to be other material put up ???

We are going to have a flat panel tv mounted up above the fireplace .. And if we ever do have another fire in the fireplace it will only be a duraflame log...

I thought I could move the 5 short studs back enough to nail in about 1/3 sheet of 3/4 in plywood , add insulation where I could , then have the drywall installed.
So when its all down I'll have a solid area to bolt the tv mount to , instead of like most tv mounts you get one stud and have to molly-screw the other side ...

Hope I'm making since here ? 16501


The only insulation that was there were between the the studs I'm talking about wanting to move back enough to nail in the plywood.
There was no insulation in back/sides of the flue . Can I put up some insulation around the inside walls where the metal baffle/reducer tapers down/up to the flue going up. I know I wouldn't put any insulation lower than that...

Thanks for any input

hj
06-01-2012, 06:45 AM
My experience has been that they do NOT recommend mounting a TV over a fireplace, unless it will NEVER be used for a fire of any kind.

BobL43
06-01-2012, 07:22 AM
My experience has been that they do NOT recommend mounting a TV over a fireplace, unless it will NEVER be used for a fire of any kind. I agree, but if you can find an attractive fireplace hood/canopy, it can deflect the heat enough to "spill over" up far enough away from the TV (maybe). Personally, I would not do it, as flat panel large screen TVs are still rather expensive even with the prices having dropped. Nice look though.

johnfrwhipple
06-01-2012, 07:25 AM
First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

Do you have an end look in mind?

If you visit www.houzz.com you can browse through tons of examples.

JW

BobL43
06-01-2012, 07:51 AM
First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

Do you have an end look in mind?

If you visit www.houzz.com (http://www.houzz.com) you can browse through tons of examples.

JW

IF that heatilator fireplace is a zero clearance unit, are those standoffs still required? Just asking. Last Heatilator unit I installed was in 1973 and I surrounded it in masonry. with just some fiberglass blanketing it came with. That heatilator weighed a lot.

Abouthadit
06-01-2012, 12:31 PM
First off, you have a load of questions and before you race off building your next project you need to hit the brakes and do some homework.

It appears to me that the stand offs to your fireplace have been removed or they are just so tiny I can not see them. Can you upload more pictures of the fireplace and the exact make and model. I'm looking for V Shaped pieces on the top, back and side of your fireplace. This make and model information will be on the lighter tag under the fireplace near the pilot lighter. Is that unit burning gas even? Might be an A vent or wood burning. ???

Ok when we removed the rock the drywall came off with the rock what you see in the pictures is what was behind the rock ,the only thing I removed were 4 pieces of insulation between the header piece up top and the next horizontal 2x4 below it.
Make is a Heatilator wood burning only #'s that I could find were 479 #F360625 MARK 123 30380A on a tag riveted to the inside lip.
I went to their web site punched in the #'s and nothing came up.

Once we have that we can then answer the drywall question. The insulation question and the rest.

I have been building fireplace features longer than I have showers and there is a lot of safe guards you can preform to achieve some safety points in regards to mounting a TV above the fireplace.

Drywall many times is not permitted above your fireplace, most units require 8"-24" of a non combustable material above and many require non combustable material 2"-6" on the sides but not all.

I wasn't sure if I could have the drywall come up just to the outside of the metal frame of the fireplace ...?

Each fireplace will have a specification for mantle project. This is key to observe and the safety of your home and TV will improve or reduce depending on how well you follow this information.

I couldn't find anything on that from their website or ?

Do you have an end look in mind?

Basically , have it dry-walled with a mantel w/some type of tile ? around fireplace and have the TV mounted above..


If you visit www.houzz.com you can browse through tons of examples.

JW


I'll try to post up more pictures...

Abouthadit
06-01-2012, 12:48 PM
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Ok hopefully these will help more ??
I know on the flue pipe going up it has stickers on it saying Maintain A Min. 2in Clearance To Combustibles

I tried answering questions in your quote...

Sorry tried to delete one of the same pics didn't work ??

Abouthadit
06-01-2012, 12:54 PM
IF that heatilator fireplace is a zero clearance unit, are those standoffs still required? Just asking. Last Heatilator unit I installed was in 1973 and I surrounded it in masonry. with just some fiberglass blanketing it came with. That heatilator weighed a lot.

I'm hoping this falls into that same category ??

johnfrwhipple
06-02-2012, 08:30 AM
Stand Off's look like this;

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Fire%20Place%20Stand%20Off%20Framing/standoffsheatilator.jpg

Perhaps you can see these on your fireplace???

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Fire%20Place%20Stand%20Off%20Framing/standoffs.jpg

Wood framing can not be installed below these stand offs. Many units have them on the back and sides as well. Some times installers fail to install them so you need to find the origianl installation guide for use.

I looked quickly and found this guide but it is not the same unit.

http://hearthnhome.com/downloads/installManuals/4072_137.pdf

Check out page 18 for a little basic information.

JW

johnfrwhipple
06-02-2012, 08:45 AM
1650216503

Ok hopefully these will help more ??
I know on the flue pipe going up it has stickers on it saying Maintain A Min. 2in Clearance To Combustibles

I tried answering questions in your quote...

Sorry tried to delete one of the same pics didn't work ??

You may be able to build a recess box for your tv mount if it can fit between those Jack studs. The two waffled pipes left and right are most likely the air intake vents and the center pipe just exhaust. You will need to keep combustables 2" off of that. We have built units where the back side is wrapped in concrete board for added safety.

Check out this fireplace. We just wrapped it up three months back.

It's new everything!

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Vancouver%20Fireplace%20Design%20Ideas/tvabovefireplace.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Vancouver%20Fireplace%20Design%20Ideas/fireplacedesignvancouver.jpg

jimbo
06-02-2012, 10:06 AM
johnfr has obviously done this before, so I would pay attention. He astutely points out that there are more questions than answers right now, and you need to settle all that before you start pouring money in. Besides the question of exactly what flammable clearances YOUR fireplace and YOUR building code requires, there is still the TV. Given the price of these puppies, I would check the warranty provisions. And if you purchased an extened warranty, check those papers as well.

I view large electronics like a flat screen as non-repairable, meaning if anything goes wrong, the cost of a repair would be well over half the cost of an brand new unit. I do purchase the 3 year warranty on these. I generally DON"T do extended warranties. I self-insure on appliances, etc. But on big screens and computers, I do. Not everyone would agree.

ANYWAY, back to the TV. They do have specs about how close to the ceiling it can be mounted, and in general are concerned about heat. Check it out.\

jadnashua
06-02-2012, 07:30 PM
My sister had her plasma TV installed above the fireplace, and personally, I find it VERY annoying. People just don't like to look up for long periods of time - it's not in our nature or anatomy! While it might seem to be a good place for it (heat excepted), personally, I'd find another.

johnfrwhipple
06-02-2012, 08:30 PM
As far as a perfect viewing angle the TV above the fireplace is less than ideal like Jim mentions but does make for a single feature point in a room. I have never had a TV fail on one of my projects but we take a lot of care planning this out. Often we incorporate a heat escape of sorts within the design to allow heat to exit the recessed niche. Often we use safe and sound insulation and cement board to further block the heat.

Fireplaces are hottest about 8-20" above the unit. This can change the colour of stone and wreck havoc on electronics. A mantle acts as a heat deflector sending the heat further away from the wall. No mantle and a surface mount TV is a failure in the making I think.

Your manual for that fireplace unit will give you all the answers your looking for and these will help narrow in your design. I like the look of a TV recessed and framed but this often requires shooting out the back of a gas unit or rolling the vent like I did in the fireplace above. With a 'A' vent like shown I do not believe this is allowed nor would you have room to pull it off. These pipes get very hot so heed this stand off warnings and ensure you use a non combustible backer board like cement board, hardi board or Green EBoard around the combustible areas. If possible recessing the mount and getting one that tilts down will make viewing better.

I have tried stirring people away from this look in years past but have come to realize that this is one on the few "Stands" the man of the house can make. So..... I usually push for the new TV and a bigger one, unless of course his wife is signing my cheques..... :)

We are looking at a new feature wall reno on Howe Street this summer that will feature a two way framed mirror to hide the fact that a TV sits behind it. This is a great look but the quality of the TV picture goes down. I'll post some info on the mirror and the mount once the designer sends it my way. If I have to make it from scratch you can be sure I'll document it here.

JW

Abouthadit
06-02-2012, 09:34 PM
Thanks for the reply's /help/suggestions !
I had it all figured out how I wanted it done.
I bought a new Panasonic 55GT50 plasma, I was going to remove the rock , frame out 8 inch's recess the TV in, recess in the center channel speaker then have the mantel come in just below the recessed center speaker...
BUT
The Tv took a dump after only having it 3 weeks , sent it to the Panasonic repair place ,after waiting 2 weeks and no calls from them I called them and was told two different stories from them. I called Panasonic customer service and got the runaround from them too. Called where I bought the TV from and the salesman talked to his manager , then told me to come on down and pick out another one.
Coarse they didn't have the 55GT50 so settled for the 65ST30.
So now that the 65inch is WAY to BIG to recess in , change of plans , just dry-wall over, have a mantel installed and just wall mount the 65in above that and figure out what to do with the center channel speaker ?

Love the 65in but shot a big hole in my plans...

Cookie
06-03-2012, 07:32 PM
Jad is right about looking up all the time to watch the tv. It is a pain in the neck, similar to sitting too close to the screen at the cinema's. Plus, I thought your fireplace looked great, just looked like the stone needed to be cleaned. Also, some houses I show with the tv above the fireplace, becomes a sore spot with some buyers, the same with built-in fishtanks acting as a divider.

Abouthadit
06-03-2012, 10:36 PM
Right now the TV is setting approx 3-4 inchs lower than when it will be mounted on the wall.
Will be a distance of 15 ft away for viewing it..

I don't know, I just didn't like the rock wall , just too plain. And yes it was dirty !!
Figured when we sell , I would just hang a picture/mirror in the spot?

I'm too impatient
I felt like I wasn't being kept in the loop about the TV being repaired , so after 2 weeks of nothing , I called the TV repair place , a gal answers the phone tells me they are waiting on parts, when I asked her what kind of time frame? , she puts me on hold then comes back on saying they are working on it now , Great ! I asked when will it be done ? Then again on hold this time when she came back on she said part was damaged when it showed up , had to order another one and it is on back order and has no idea when the other one will show up. I interpreted it as she wasn't being fully truthful or they didn't know what H%$# they were doing.
I called Panasonic customer service got the runaround from them , they gave me some order # and transfered me to their parts dept, When I finally got on line with somebody they told me the part had shipped 3 days earlier but for some reason she can't come up with a tracking # ??
So thats when I called the place where we bought the TV in the first place.

Sooo !! We go down to the place where we bought the TV Saturday afternoon (yesterday) (4 days after going through all the above) looking for a AVR guess what there's our TV setting on the floor even had the note on back saying panel had been replaced... ???

I really like the look of the TV it was the TC-P55GT30 which meant a thinner over all and I believe a better TV....
I can still return the 65inch and get the TV I had in the first place.
If I did that I could go back to my original plan..

BUT
I just felt I got the runaround with everybody except the place where I got the TV and am still upset over the whole ordeal .
I felt like (probably more my own fault?) I was pressured into getting the 65in TC-P65ST30 because it listed for $2999.95 but for the Memorial weekend only it was on sale for $1599.99 So I felt like I had to jump on it...
I like the picture but don't like the fact that the overall housing of the TV is wider/taller because of the outer edges being thicker, that is a major difference from a ST verses GT model (ya have to google both TV's to see what I'm talking about), also the 55GT has a outer trim that makes it look nicer too...

Sorry for the rant I'm just in that state of mind right now on what to do ?????

Cookie
06-04-2012, 06:14 AM
Two weeks, lol, everything takes 2 weeks. :) If you paid by credit card you might have some leverage.

Ballvalve had posted some pictures of his work, you could get an idea maybe. John here has nice work for sure, but, Ballvalve has redone so much on his property, and, it to me, seems flawless both in workmanship and taste. You should see what he did, it is beautiful.

Abouthadit
06-04-2012, 10:20 PM
I know takes 2 weeks for everything (O Brother Movie ) LOL
But I had called a week and a half earlier to Pana Customer Service and after getting transferred to tech support and went through the 20+ questions and then the tech had me do some trial and error diagnoses to the TV he said he knew exactly what the problem was and they would be in contact with the Authorized repair place to have the parts on hand so they had me set up an appointment the following week to allow time for the parts to be shipped there.
A week + later for my appointment I'm expecting either a service tech repairing my TV in Home or a day turn around and have it back the next day or the following day.
NOPE
Some older gentleman (to be nice) shows up looks at the TV and says "WOW haven't seen that in a few years", he said the "panel is dead , needs a new one "
Then went on to say he'll call Panasonic in the morning and get one ordered and that somebody will be out the next day to pick my TV up ???

I explained to him that I was under the impression by my phone conversation with the Pana tech over a week before that the parts (panel) would be at their place and would be a 1 or 2 day turnaround . He just had the deer in the head light look...
Now the tech didn't come out and say what the part was BUT did say he knew what the problem was and parts would be on hand at time of appointment..

There's more but I'm sure I'm boring everybody ! lol


"""Ballvalve had posted some pictures of his work, you could get an idea maybe. John here has nice work for sure, but, Ballvalve has redone so much on his property, and, it to me, seems flawless both in workmanship and taste. You should see what he did, it is beautiful.""""

Would like to see some of his work !!

Cookie
06-06-2012, 08:18 PM
Just do a search and his photos should come up. It is really very nice. Are your 2 weeks up, yet? :)

Abouthadit
06-07-2012, 12:44 AM
Just do a search and his photos should come up. It is really very nice. Are your 2 weeks up, yet? :)


That went over my head "Are my two weeks up" LOL
Unless you mean I have 14 days to return the 65in TV.

Nope I'm keeping it , and just going to do a simple drywall around the fireplace outer edges , tile in around it put up the TV then get a mantel to fit ...
I'll have the wires up high where they won't interfere or even come close to anything....

Cookie
06-07-2012, 05:31 AM
I was joking about the " 2 weeks"... but, it sounds good what you are planning to do. :)

DonL
06-07-2012, 05:16 PM
I would not build in a plasma tv.

Because it will need to be removed for repair.

johnfrwhipple
06-13-2012, 08:57 AM
We are working on a clients home in Whistler that has a nice huge TV above the fireplace. After an hour my neck was killing me. I would think a TV that can tilt forward might be useful as well a couch that has a head rest for more comfy viewing.

LOL I just read my post and I sound like a slacker. We worked all day until 8:00 PM and then spend the night here at their place. I did do some work before enjoying TV and Pizza!

JW

DonL
06-13-2012, 11:58 AM
We are working on a clients home in Whistler that has a nice huge TV above the fireplace. After an hour my neck was killing me. I would think a TV that can tilt forward might be useful as well a couch that has a head rest for more comfy viewing.

LOL I just read my post and I sound like a slacker. We worked all day until 8:00 PM and then spend the night here at their place. I did do some work before enjoying TV and Pizza!

JW


That is funny.

Anyone that mounts a TV above a Real Fireplace is asking for trouble.

People do it and like too "Show what I got" until the TV is out for repair.

Then they have to use the TV in the Bedroom that is on the dresser.

Most Fireplaces around here are fake. We have them in Houston just for looks.

Some People have more money than sense, and take TV watching to serious.

200 + channels and nothing worth watching.

Pizza is always good.

BobL43
06-13-2012, 01:15 PM
We are working on a clients home in Whistler that has a nice huge TV above the fireplace. After an hour my neck was killing me. I would think a TV that can tilt forward might be useful as well a couch that has a head rest for more comfy viewing.

LOL I just read my post and I sound like a slacker. We worked all day until 8:00 PM and then spend the night here at their place. I did do some work before enjoying TV and Pizza!

JWYup, John, that's what it sounded like!

BobL43
06-13-2012, 01:16 PM
That is funny.

Anyone that mounts a TV above a Real Fireplace is asking for trouble.

People do it and like too "Show what I got" until the TV is out for repair.

Then they have to use the TV in the Bedroom that is on the dresser.

Most Fireplaces around here are fake. We have them in Houston just for looks.

Some People have more money than sense, and take TV watching to serious.

200 + channels and nothing worth watching.

Pizza is always good.Don, I have more sense than money, so please send some (money) my way, lol!

Gary Swart
06-13-2012, 01:39 PM
When I was ready to go to a large flat screen, I thought over the fireplace would be ideal. However, I was advised by several folks that looking up was not a comfortable way to watch TV. I heeded the advice and got a table for it. Since then, I've had the opportunity to visit homes that had their flat screen over the fireplace and I know I made the right decision. I know it seems like a great idea to save floor space and put the TV so it will be viewable from everywhere in the room, but it really isn't a good idea.

BobL43
06-13-2012, 02:01 PM
When I was ready to go to a large flat screen, I thought over the fireplace would be ideal. However, I was advised by several folks that looking up was not a comfortable way to watch TV. I heeded the advice and got a table for it. Since then, I've had the opportunity to visit homes that had their flat screen over the fireplace and I know I made the right decision. I know it seems like a great idea to save floor space and put the TV so it will be viewable from everywhere in the room, but it really isn't a good idea. A chair like this might help though. Ha!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udf1a_cjH1A&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFxw_F0bCV4&feature=related

DonL
06-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Don, I have more sense than money, so please send some (money) my way, lol!


I would but Money is kind of tight right now, since I am getting my New Ceiling projected TV installed in the bedroom.

BobL43
06-13-2012, 02:16 PM
I would but Money is kind of tight right now, since I am getting my New Ceiling projected TV installed in the bedroom.Well maybe I don't have so much sense after all. If I didn't spend so much on my wife's new bathroom I'd have more money.

DonL
06-13-2012, 03:32 PM
Well maybe I don't have so much sense after all. If I didn't spend so much on my wife's new bathroom I'd have more money.

Keep her happy and she will keep you happy.

You have better sense than most, and your priorities are in the right place.

BobL43
06-13-2012, 04:25 PM
Keep her happy and she will keep you happy.

You have better sense than most, and your priorities are in the right place.Thanks Don, we both try to do our best to keep each other happy. Hope you guys are doing well too.

Cookie
06-13-2012, 08:03 PM
Make each other laugh...

Abouthadit
06-13-2012, 10:51 PM
We are working on a clients home in Whistler that has a nice huge TV above the fireplace. After an hour my neck was killing me. I would think a TV that can tilt forward might be useful as well a couch that has a head rest for more comfy viewing.

LOL I just read my post and I sound like a slacker. We worked all day until 8:00 PM and then spend the night here at their place. I did do some work before enjoying TV and Pizza!

JW

Can you measure the seating distance to the TV , what size the TV is and at what height is it mounted ?

I'll be at 15 Ft , the TV is a 65in , and top of TV will be approx 7ft 6in and bottom of screen will be aprrox 4ft 6in...

Alot of the TV's I've seen in pictures or in person the seating dist is less than 8ft away and yes that would be like "Front Row Joe" at the movie theater...

I got all the wires ran , the Drywall guy will be here tomorrow, then come back Friday to finish up , hopefully paint Sat. then Sun/Monday get the TV hung.
And all the surround system put back in place ....

jadnashua
06-14-2012, 02:06 PM
Personally, I prefer to either look down on the screen or at most, to be looking slightly higher than the mid-point when staring straight ahead. Any up angle to view the screen gets to be a pain. What I'd do is while sitting in your normal viewing seat, look ahead at a point that is comfortable - like staring off into the distance while sitting on a park bench...then ideally, center the screen there. I really think you're going to find it too high unless you have a reclining chair for all positions. Then, consider maybe the children whose sight-line starts a foot or more below yours, or if they like to sit on the floor. High is NOT good unless you are laying in bed or are a masochist.

johnfrwhipple
06-16-2012, 06:09 AM
Can you measure the seating distance to the TV , what size the TV is and at what height is it mounted ?

I'll be at 15 Ft , the TV is a 65in , and top of TV will be approx 7ft 6in and bottom of screen will be aprrox 4ft 6in...

Alot of the TV's I've seen in pictures or in person the seating dist is less than 8ft away and yes that would be like "Front Row Joe" at the movie theater...

I got all the wires ran , the Drywall guy will be here tomorrow, then come back Friday to finish up , hopefully paint Sat. then Sun/Monday get the TV hung.
And all the surround system put back in place ....


Your TV is good size. The AV pros we work with here in Vancouver recommend taking your viewing distance (15' or 180") and dividing it by three (60") . This rule was for the old size TV's so now with the wide angle a 65" should be ideal!

JW

chefwong
06-16-2012, 09:28 AM
Abouthadit -

Have you done a cardboard mockup as well as sat in the presume seating position.

In the bedroom, mounted nice and high with a angle tilt mount is the way to go. Angled - as in angled down towards the bed.

For a 65", with 1/3 being the general rule, a NICE place to start as a reference point is the bottom of the screen at 40" AFF and then take it from there.
If you're an architect, you want it high --- just because fashion rules over function.
If you're a HT sorta guy, 1/3 eyelevel is the rule of thumb

DonL
06-16-2012, 04:52 PM
Abouthadit -

Have you done a cardboard mockup as well as sat in the presume seating position.


I never did like the cardboard mockup of my girl.

The mirrored ceiling is better.

BobL43
06-17-2012, 07:52 AM
I never did like the cardboard mockup of my girl.

The mirrored ceiling is better.Don, you Risque Rascal! Happy Fathers Day to All!

chefwong
06-18-2012, 07:28 PM
Abouthadit...

Any pics of your screen. Did you really end up installing it with the bottom being at 54 inches....:p

Abouthadit
06-19-2012, 09:56 PM
Hopefully will have it hung tomorrow. Had to do a road trip the last couple of days .
Once I get it up I'll post up a pic or two...
Then we are working on getting the mantel done, she wants --- I want going on lol...

chefwong
06-20-2012, 04:44 AM
For a minute there, I thought you had hurt yourself craning your neck all the time to look at the new setup ;-)

Seriously though....before you go through the trouble of mounting it that high, can I suggest the mock-up test and just looking at it for a short extended period of time.
And if you have little ones, pretend you're 2-3 feet shorter and imagine HOW much more uncomfortable it is. This is all very subjective.....and don't get me wrong, displays hung high look great *aesthetically* , but at 54" as a ref point of the bottom of the screen, it's really quite high.

You can pull it off somewhat if you have all reclining seats in your room......

johnfrwhipple
06-22-2012, 08:35 AM
For a minute there, I thought you had hurt yourself craning your neck all the time to look at the new setup ;-)

Seriously though....before you go through the trouble of mounting it that high, can I suggest the mock-up test and just looking at it for a short extended period of time.
And if you have little ones, pretend you're 2-3 feet shorter and imagine HOW much more uncomfortable it is. This is all very subjective.....and don't get me wrong, displays hung high look great *aesthetically* , but at 54" as a ref point of the bottom of the screen, it's really quite high.

You can pull it off somewhat if you have all reclining seats in your room......

Or if your watching from bed and need to see over your ice cream bowl and toes!

:)

LOL

JW

Abouthadit
07-03-2012, 03:00 PM
We can't decide which Mantel to get (long story lol ), so I just mounted the center speaker below the TV for now.
These are a couple of pictures of the TV mounted , I took the pictures from where I sit to watch, no strain on neck at all . The TV can tilt 15 degrees so I have it tilted down just abit.
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DonL
07-04-2012, 10:56 AM
We can't decide which Mantel to get (long story lol ), so I just mounted the center speaker below the TV for now.
These are a couple of pictures of the TV mounted , I took the pictures from where I sit to watch, no strain on neck at all . The TV can tilt 15 degrees so I have it tilted down just abit.


Looks Nice.

Can I say spoiled rotten ? lol.

The TV repair man will be happy if you use the fireplace, as long as the warranty has been voided.

Abouthadit
07-04-2012, 10:35 PM
Looks Nice.

Can I say spoiled rotten ? lol.

The TV repair man will be happy if you use the fireplace, as long as the warranty has been voided.


The only fire that we might have will be a duraflame log .. NOTHING else... :)

Now I have to save up and buy some smaller wall mount Paradigm speakers and get rid of the big speakers. But dang they sound good !! lol

DonL
07-05-2012, 05:06 AM
The only fire that we might have will be a duraflame log .. NOTHING else... :)

Now I have to save up and buy some smaller wall mount Paradigm speakers and get rid of the big speakers. But dang they sound good !! lol

If you want good deep Base sound then replacing them with wall mounts may not work as well.

The bigger speakers work the best if your amp has enough power to drive them.

The bigger the better if you like your Low Frequency response. Just raising them off the floor can greatly reduce the deep lows.


Looks like you have a nice setup.

Abouthadit
07-06-2012, 03:59 PM
If you want good deep Base sound then replacing them with wall mounts may not work as well.

The bigger speakers work the best if your amp has enough power to drive them.

The bigger the better if you like your Low Frequency response. Just raising them off the floor can greatly reduce the deep lows.


Looks like you have a nice setup.

Thanks for the comment , I know I could get away with the smaller front speakers because the sub can/has/does rattle the walls/pictures/etc !! lol

Abouthadit
08-10-2012, 10:18 PM
Well been over a month now , still love the set up , no crinks in the neck lol

My only complaint is I had upgraded the receiver from a 5:1 to a 7:2 AFTER I ran the rear wires in the attack and had the insulation blown in , I should on ran 2 more wires too for future installs. Oh well..

DonL
08-11-2012, 12:20 PM
Well been over a month now , still love the set up , no crinks in the neck lol

My only complaint is I had upgraded the receiver from a 5:1 to a 7:2 AFTER I ran the rear wires in the attack and had the insulation blown in , I should on ran 2 more wires too for future installs. Oh well..

When ever I pull a wire I add a extra pull string or two. String is cheap and worth the effort, just in case you want another different wire later.

You could use one of the old wires as a pull string and pull some new ones, unless you tacked them down.

Does the 7.2 sound better than the 5.1 ? Seems like that would take special programing or some sort of phase sifting.

I don't see the need for anything better than 5.1. People like numbers tho.

7.2 was made for people that have 4 ears, and that have eyes in the back of their head. 4D is nice and used mostly on Mars.

I hope you have a good popcorn popper.

Enjoy.

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Abouthadit
08-12-2012, 07:28 PM
Well the speakers would be in different locations , so pulling the other wires back through with new ones wouldn't help ...
I have listened to other 7:1 and 7:2 systems and it just fills the room with sound.
Even with my 5:1 my Fiance has jumped up off the couch thinking she heard something behind her , I just laugh ...Watching a scary movie and hear a creaking door really gets her jumpy.. lol
Watching the Expendables and when Terry Crews character is blasting away the bad guys with that shotgun , it just flows from the rear to the front .Its awesome.
I just watched Act Of Valor last night and when the sniper was shooting it was like the bullets were flying right by you...
I watched a bit of the Expendables on a 7:2 system and dam it sounded so much better...... even though the movie is in 5:1 Dolby Digital Audio it still sounded awesome , I love bass and with the 2 Subs in the 7:2 system they had everything shacking !!!!!