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johnfrwhipple
12-08-2011, 05:57 AM
I was going to start out today by saying that this guy at the lumber desk yesterday gave me a "Chubby" but that doesn't sound right. But the fact is he did! Seven inches. In his hand he was holding a nine inch "Chubby".

Before you go and flag this thread as "****ography" I'm talking about a new carpenter's pencil.

Here is a peak.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/ChubbysOnTheLevelCarpentorPencil.jpg

The Pencil is a proper carpenter's pencil invented by "Chubby" and I used it day one to set an alarm pad out in UBC.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/CarpentorsPencilandlevelinoneVancouverjpg.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/OnTheLevelCarpentorPencil.jpg

My pencil is both Green in colour and Green is material selection. It is not made from wood but some sort of composite material. I think I will enjoy this new tool so long as I don't sit on it!

I showed my daughter's and they all want it. Now I better order a box for the kids. I'm sure my Journeyman will pinch my new toy when I'm not looking. David if your reading this - you better not touch my "Chubby". LOL

JW


Measuring the pitch on a shampoo shower niche.

If your looking to order some of these pencils you can do so here (http://no-curb.blogspot.ca/2013/02/carpenters-pencil-ruler-and-level-all.html)

johnfrwhipple
12-08-2011, 08:25 PM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8305.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8298.jpg

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8297.jpg

JW

leejosepho
12-09-2011, 07:54 AM
I showed my daughters and they all want it ...
I need six for my grandchildren!

johnfrwhipple
12-10-2011, 05:46 AM
My daughter wants ten for her friends at School.

I ordered 40!

I broke this one yesterday. You need to be a little extra careful because the level is the weak point for the pencil but it is a very handy tool. I'm hooked.

:)

Get your Chubby ordered here (http://no-curb.blogspot.ca/2013/02/carpenters-pencil-ruler-and-level-all.html)

hj
12-10-2011, 08:28 AM
The Swiss Army Knife of carpenter's pencils. Now, if I could just hold the Chubby level and find a "carpenter's pencil" to draw the line. You have to sharpen Chubby on both ends to get full usage out of him. Eventually, you will wind up with a lot of 1 1/2" "levels", which might be good for something.

johnfrwhipple
12-10-2011, 07:04 PM
The Swiss Army Knife of carpenter's pencils. Now, if I could just hold the Chubby level and find a "carpenter's pencil" to draw the line. You have to sharpen Chubby on both ends to get full usage out of him. Eventually, you will wind up with a lot of 1 1/2" "levels", which might be good for something.

That's funny HJ. Yes you will need two pencils. Excellent point.

JW

mtcummins
12-10-2011, 09:19 PM
Ha, that is funny. I guess its useful for many things though... I don't actually mark level that often, at least not when using a torpedo level. I just throw it on a piece of trim, or tile, or electrical box, or whatever, and secure it. Then again, I tend to lose pencils left and right, so I usually carry about 3 anyway...

JW, you said it has a magnet in it... where is that? Embedded in the wood? Does it stick to a metal surface like many levels?

I might have to find these, if nothing else just for the novelty when BSing with other contractors... not sure if I want them all talking about my Chubby though...

leejosepho
12-11-2011, 03:29 AM
JW, you said it has a magnet in it... where is that? Embedded in the wood? Does it stick to a metal surface like many levels?
Nah, that is prob'ly a special magnet for wood. ;)

johnfrwhipple
12-11-2011, 07:37 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/MeasuringEdgeGrainFirwithPencilLevel.jpg
Measuring wood with a Carpenter's Pencil

Was milling up some edge grain fir todays back for a nice custom door job in UBC. Wiped out the "Old Chubby" to check my thickness. I wanted to keep the finished stock between 3/4" and 7/8" - man was the planer noisy. Stopped at 7/8"!

The magnet is on the underside of the level and flush with the pencil. It does work just like a magentic torpedo but sadly the magnet does not work on wood.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/HowstrongisthemagnetinaChubbyspencil.jpg

The magnet is very strong.


I spoke to the owner of the company yesterday morning and was raving about his invention. Turns out the dude is a brick setter and runs a masonary company. His boys always looking for a torpedo level and their pencils always behind their ear.....

Hmmmm.

And bang a great new job site time saver is born. I find the pencil a tad harder to sharpen over my English Carpenter's pencils but what I discovered is if I slice off first the recycled plastic coating first I can get a killer edge on this pencil. So sharp it's like working with a standard or school pencil. Love it.

I ordered a wack of them and am going to give them away to my favourite clients and subs at Christmas. My favourite subs will have it taped to a bottle.

JW

hj
12-11-2011, 07:42 AM
Back in the old days, during my apprenticeship and we still used 6' folding rulers, I always bought the expensive Lufkin with the 6" slide extension, but it seemed everytime I went to check the crews on a job, somebody needed a ruler. I got tired of buying them, especially when I started "losing" the ruler right after I bought it, so I started buying tape measures because NOBODY liked them during that era. The same thing might start happening with your Chubby, so you probably need to buy a lot of them.

johnfrwhipple
12-11-2011, 07:58 AM
I don't want anyone touching my "Chubby", well maybe my wife can use it. That's it. I will stock them in my Truck and give a wack to my Journeyman. If not having to search for the torpedo, go back and find the tape saves me even 20 minutes a week I'm making money on these things. 20 minutes is only 4 minutes a day and sometimes it can take longer than that just getting to the truck , especially if we are working in a high rise building in Vancouver.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/MeasuringLEDlightswithacarpenterspencil.jpg

johnfrwhipple
12-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Some finishing work today out in UBC. Step one in a three part baseboard detail.

Used my "Chubby" to check my inside corner. Checking more that the tops where on the same plane here.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/CheckingbaseboardsforlevelwithaChubbypencil.jpg

Carpenter's pencil with built in level

Showed my mom last night and she loves them. Like me she ordered a wack for Christmas Gifts and Stocking Stuffers. I'm told that Mark's Work Wharehouse is going to stock them in Western Canada. Not sure if you boys in Seattle have a Marks Outlet.

leejosepho
12-14-2011, 04:55 AM
The Chubby's developer is fixing me up with a few of these high-tech wonders for my grandchildren, and here is his sneak preview of a version he says will be stronger:

johnfrwhipple
12-14-2011, 06:26 AM
The Chubby's developer is fixing me up with a few of these high-tech wonders for my grandchildren, and here is his sneak preview of a version he says will be stronger:

Will the new generation carpenter's pencil still have the ruler and the magnet? Did he say?

I left my pencil and tape measure at the job site and some one mixed up the 1x5" and 1x6" stock. I went to pull out my "Chubby" and was joked I didn't have it in my pocket. Took 2 minutes to track down a Yard guy. Took 1 minutes to explain that he could stop asking me questions I'm OK. And another 1/2 minute to return the tape. Lost minutes in a busy day.

JW

UPDATE

The new pencil design looks like this;

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2012-07-03at54543AM.png

leejosepho
12-14-2011, 07:02 AM
Will the new generation carpenter's pencil still have the ruler and the magnet? Did he say?
Not specifically, but I believe that would be a logical assumption and that the pic he sent is a prototype ready for graphics and a magnet.

mtcummins
12-14-2011, 04:20 PM
That should def be stronger... cutting out the middle is much better than the edge... will be interesting to see how it develops.

johnfrwhipple
12-15-2011, 09:27 PM
Wasted 10 minutes today looking for my torpedo level.

The new carpenter's pencil with the level should have a big brother with the level the other way. Even my "Chubby" wouldn't of help.

JW

leejosepho
12-16-2011, 03:49 AM
Nah, just just need an adapter ...

johnfrwhipple
12-16-2011, 06:40 AM
Nah, just just need an adapter ...

Would that be a "Strap On" for your your "Chubby"? :)

I did use my pocket square to level the trim.

JW

johnfrwhipple
12-17-2011, 05:54 AM
Jake sent me a box of "Chubbies" with my order that are samples. Some are less than perfect but most are bang on. If any regular here wants a "Chubby" for Christmas I would be happy to send you one. Send me your address to info@byanydesign.com. I'll make sure you get a good one.

My daughter's love these pencils. They love the fact that two pencil's click together and the youngest has developed a spin technique where she can flick on pencil and it spins around. I showed my girls last night how a "Chubby" can stick to the wall (corner bead) and they thought it was magic. Then my eldest called me out on it. Right now the girls have their Carpenter's Pencils stuck to the walls beside their beds. :)

I asked them why they think they are called "Chubby's" and they said so matter of fact that "Because they are a fat pencil." Makes perfect sense to me. My youngest drew a rainbow and drew two lines at once - these pencils even save time for those in Kindergarden. LOL

Merry Christmas.

johnfrwhipple
12-18-2011, 09:13 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Checkingyournewpencillevel.jpg

Checking my pencils for level.

Mike I sent you a seven inch and a nine inch.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/MikeCummins.jpg


JW

Merry Christmas!



Mike you might want to make a case for your Chubby like I made for Angus.

Take a look.

I'm calling this protective sleeve a "Case offering needed damage obstruction from Mishandling" I think the Acronym is better. Drop the F and just call the case a C.O.N.D.O.M.


http://youtu.be/TMj1v41InPc

:)


JW

johnfrwhipple
12-18-2011, 11:10 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Findingthecenterofatilewithtworulers.jpg

With two Chubbies you can also find the center of a tile or shipping box quickly!

johnfrwhipple
12-20-2011, 06:29 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8553.jpg

Finding center of a 13" something board.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8554.jpg

Checking my "Chubby" for level.

johnfrwhipple
12-22-2011, 06:06 AM
Building a fireplace feature in UBC yesterday.

Lots of chances to use my new Carpenter's Pencil and Level in one.

The first thing I do with my levels is check them for level!

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2011-12-21at95023PM.png

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2011-12-21at95211PM.png

I used the 9" "Chubby" to double check the center measurements of this Italian Marble. 4" on center it is. The grout joint looked tight but because of the eased edge will look like this finished bathroom floor.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2011-12-21at95103PM.png

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2011-12-21at95049PM.png

A flush tile to hardwood installation.

JW

johnfrwhipple
12-24-2011, 07:43 AM
I showed my "Chubby's" to a mason working down the street from me.

I asked to check his work and he laughed and said go ahead. I told him if his work passed inspection he could have the two "Chubbies".

Here is a look.

Of course I gave him the pencils.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8837.jpg

You could built this with some string and a "Chubby".

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8830.jpg

"Looks good that way".

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8832.jpg

"Looks goof like that"

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/IMG_8826.jpg

Now this is not level. The Electrcician could have used a "Chubby"

Merry Christmas everyone.

JW

johnfrwhipple
12-25-2011, 10:15 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2011-12-25at101112AM.png

Here is a look at Justin Beber in Vancouver. I think he likes his new "Chubby"

Merry Christmas Everyone.

johnfrwhipple
01-03-2012, 06:05 AM
http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Noble%20Seal%20TS%20vs%20Kerdi%20head%20to%20head% 20testing/IMG_9308.jpg

Now what is not right with this picture?

johnfrwhipple
06-27-2012, 11:42 PM
The next Generation "Chubby" is in my sweaty little hands! The new design rocks and makes the Chubby's even stronger.

I'll get a few action shots up soon.

JW

hj
06-28-2012, 07:22 AM
quote; The first thing I do with my levels is check them for level!

You must be like the project superintendent on a job years ago. I told him his floor elevation mark was wrong and he wanted to know what made me think so. I told him I measured it, so he took my ruler and measured it with his to make sure it was correct. THen he changed his floor mark.

johnfrwhipple
06-29-2012, 07:58 PM
HJ I always check and double check these things. We built a kitchen ceiling years ago and did so perfectly level - or perfectly out of level I should say. Learned the lesson the hard way that levels drop and can go out of wack. I stack them with every grading or framing job and make sure they are all leaning the same way.

I have a god supply of first generation Chubby's and a few second generation ones as well. How would you like to test a few out at work?

JW

johnfrwhipple
07-03-2012, 05:51 AM
Waterproofing this shower yesterday and whipped out the Chubby to check my grading.

Love the Chubby.

I use the ruler more than the level. It's amazing how you come to depend on this second measuring device!

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2012-07-03at54543AM.png

JW

johnfrwhipple
07-15-2012, 07:45 AM
This new pencil design rocks. So much stronger than the original design.

I used it the other day to set the electrical boxes.

http://i839.photobucket.com/albums/zz314/jfrwhipple/Carpenter%20Pencil%20and%20Level%20in%20One/Screenshot2012-07-13at74158AM.png

Because of the magnet the pencil does not fall off the switch while adjusting.

Sweet!

JW

johnfrwhipple
09-28-2012, 07:04 AM
Once again the Chubby comes to the rescue! I'm always working with my Chubby in the shower (http://no-curb.blogspot.ca/2013/02/carpenters-pencil-ruler-and-level-all.html).

johnfrwhipple
12-24-2012, 10:44 AM
One of my golden rules in barrier free shower design (this is a laundry closet) is that you need at the very least 5/8" of elevation change from the top of the drain to the elevation of the dry zone outside the shower. In this picture you can see part of my "Chubby (http://chubbysonthelevel.com)" resting on the drain and the drain cover resting on the finished floor elevation.

I love these pencils. So handy.

JW

hj
12-25-2012, 07:20 AM
quote;; The first thing I do with my levels is check them for level!

I once had a job superintendant check my 25' tape to make sure it was the same as his, because I told him one of his measurements was wrong.

leejosepho
12-25-2012, 03:30 PM
I once heard a confused man say, "Whew, I've cut it twice and it's still too short..." :confused:

johnfrwhipple
12-26-2012, 09:25 AM
Good tips men.

I would not build a kitchen with my Chubby and do check them before using them. The pencil in the picture is the generation one version and the new pencils are even better.

The ruler is the bomb. Not the level. The amount of times I pull out my "Chubby" in a day is crazy. I'm always using it at work to measure this or that. So handy when shopping for millwork as well.

JW