Suken tub remodel questions

DYIDan

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Hey, guys, I’m Dan (new here) and I have a remodel project that I need your expertise on. The sunken tub in question was originally built in 1970. This (Florida) house has a concrete slab base and no access from below. I’m wanting to fill in this sunken tub and turn it into a floor level shower. I have attached a couple of photos showing both sides of the plumbing wall. I’m looking for some perspective on what I might be getting into as well as some best practices on the drain connection when I configure the new shower drain into the existing waste line. I’ve had previous experience with lead and oakum joints years ago and would really like to avoid this if possible. However, I’m concerned that using a pipe cutter on the waste line to attach a band clamp fitting will require a pretty large opening as well as the likelihood of cracking or uneven cutting the old buried waste line if I go that route. I considered just tapping into the shower drain itself to take a shortcut but am concerned that would be a mistake as well outside code allowances. I have read numerous posts debating pro/con of methods to cut waste pipe but they generally don’t address older buried lines.
I’m curious how the original plumbing would have been configured for this type of construction. My experience was in level flat slabs, so components like the tub drain/overflow would have been installed above the floor and after the slab was poured. It looks like the overflow would have been installed before the slab or they had to have access but not sure how this would have been covered up and reinforced for the flooring. I suspect I’ll see when I start to bust out for the new drain but would like to better understand what I’m getting in to. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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Dan
 
That is an unusualy "garden tub" because they usually have 2" "Roman tub" drain without an overflow, which makes it easy to convert to a shower. HOW they did it could be in any of multiple ways, so we cannot answer that. Normally, I would locate the vent riser and insert a tee, then run to the shower drain location inside the old tub, after placing enough fill to support it.
 
Thanks for the response.The riser is to the right just the other side of the toilet, (3/4 ft) I would like to avoid inserting a new tee as the cast iron riser will be hard the brace /support as well as my concerns with cutting the stack. Did plenty of cast iron plumbing in the 70's and would save that approach if others prove unsuccessful. I'm going to try busting out the concrete at the drain waste and follow back for a place to cut or hub. My lateral digging very quickly enters the main floor space and I hope to not get deep in that space.

I'm still curious about the initial rough in as it would seem more practical to have left space for the waste trap at the bottom of the tub when pouring the slab, then brace/reinforce that section after the waste was set. I guess I'm worried about the thickness and rebar I might be running into.
Dan
 
The trap, tub drain, AND overflow would have to have been assembled at the same time so it COULD have been done after the floor was poured, but it would have taken a lot more forming and time, to pour the tub afterwards.
 
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