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Underwater
05-17-2011, 09:34 PM
I am replacing a 2 year old Moen kitchen faucet (for the second time) and vow not to see if the third time is a charm. Can anyone suggest a good brand/model pull out kitchen faucet in the $175-$250 range?

I saw a Hansgrohe model at Costco but not sure if it is made special for them to lower specs.

Thanks in advance!!

johnjh2o1
05-18-2011, 04:37 AM
Can you say Delta. In my opinion Delta has a much better product then Moen.

John

jimbo
05-18-2011, 06:17 AM
I saw a Hansgrohe model at Costco but not sure if it is made special for them to lower specs.

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hj
05-18-2011, 07:40 AM
The first question would be WHY are you replacing the faucet in the first place, especially twice in two years. Normally you only replace a Moen, Delta, or Price Pfister faucet when you get tired of looking at it. However, when it comes to kitchen faucets my preferences are Price Pfister, Delta, and then Moen, in that order.

Underwater
05-18-2011, 08:45 AM
The first question would be WHY are you replacing the faucet in the first place, especially twice in two years. Normally you only replace a Moen, Delta, or Price Pfister faucet when you get tired of looking at it. However, when it comes to kitchen faucets my preferences are Price Pfister, Delta, and then Moen, in that order.

First Moen was in previous house. I bought it because it had a built in filter. About a month after the warranty expired, it began to leak and I was told it needed a new cartridge. I replaced that and it still leaked. Moen at first refused to do anything about it. But I thought that I should get more than 14 or 15 months out if it so after much arguing they finally agreed to replace it with a non-filtered model.

In the next house, I somehow forgot my bad experience with Moen of a few years before and bought another one. Same thing....1 or 2 months after the warranty expired the cartridge began to leak AND the handle is all messed up as well.

I can't do the work myself so I need a plumber to fix the thing and if I am going to spend money on a new cartridge and fixing the handle of a piece of junk, I rather just get rid of it, start over with something fresh and be done.

cacher_chick
05-18-2011, 03:31 PM
I put a Delta "Kate" pull-down in our kitchen and have been very happy with it.

Tom Sawyer
05-18-2011, 03:41 PM
6 votes for Delta.

hj
05-18-2011, 04:01 PM
quote; About a month after the warranty expired, it began to leak and I was told it needed a new cartridge.

How does a "lifetime" guaranty "expire"? In fact, if the faucet cannot be repaired, Moen will send me a new faucet.

johnjh2o1
05-18-2011, 04:12 PM
quote; About a month after the warranty expired, it began to leak and I was told it needed a new cartridge.

How does a "lifetime" guaranty "expire"? In fact, if the faucet cannot be repaired, Moen will send me a new faucet.

So would Delta, but with a much less chance of failing in the first place.

hj
05-18-2011, 04:14 PM
So have Price Pfister and Kohler at various times, along with Delta and Moen.

Underwater
05-19-2011, 08:06 AM
quote; About a month after the warranty expired, it began to leak and I was told it needed a new cartridge.

How does a "lifetime" guaranty "expire"? In fact, if the faucet cannot be repaired, Moen will send me a new faucet.

I am only going on what the plumber who sold me the faucet said. I will go back and check the documentation. But regardless, I still have to pay a trip charge and labor to remover and again to reinstall. I am not sure I want to go a third time with Moen even if the hardware is free. A free replacement still costs me money. Excluding Moen, is Delta the next best choice? What about Kohler? I've seen some negative posts on their faucets.

Thanks for your help.

jadnashua
05-19-2011, 11:54 AM
All of these things eventually, will need repair parts. Kohler is the worst on consistent design...they change their stuff frequently, and getting parts can sometimes be a very time-consuming and potentially costly proposition. Most of the rest of the companies only make minor internal changes, and parts are usually easy to get, and inexpensive (if you have to pay for them, many have long, or even lifetime warranties).

I don't know your personal situation, but replacing a faucet isn't all that hard. Certainly, a pro should be able to do it faster, and in some places, the law requires a pro, but the actual installation, especially on one that isn't too old and corroded, should be quick and easy.

hj
05-21-2011, 08:51 AM
quote; But regardless, I still have to pay a trip charge and labor to remover and again to reinstall

It would be ONE trip charge to remove the old faucet and install the new one which Moen has already sent you. They DO NOT want the old one back FIRST, and in fact, they do not want the old one back EVER. I once had a customer who felt the same way, so after I sold them a new faucet and installed it, I threw the old one in the scrap bin, and installed the replacement on my sink.

LLigetfa
05-21-2011, 09:17 AM
How does a "lifetime" guaranty "expire"? In fact, if the faucet cannot be repaired, Moen will send me a new faucet.Ja, I wondered the same thing. That said, "Buy it for looks. Buy it for life!" is just a slogan and I've had to replace major components in my Moen kitchen faucet more than once in 12 years. Moen has always been good about replacing the parts for free but if I had to pay a plumber to do the work, I would have it ripped out and another brand installed.

decorisland
09-20-2012, 10:20 AM
I am replacing a 2 year old Moen kitchen faucet (for the second time) and vow not to see if the third time is a charm. Can anyone suggest a good brand/model pull out kitchen faucet in the $175-$250 range?

I saw a Hansgrohe model at Costco but not sure if it is made special for them to lower specs.

Thanks in advance!!


Have you tried an online store? Decor Island carries various kitchen and bathroom appliances, including faucets, bathtubs, showers, and whirlpools. Their kitchen faucets double bowl can give you a lot of space to work with in the kitchen as well.

jadnashua
09-20-2012, 03:34 PM
I put a Delta pull-out kitchen faucet in my mother's house. It's been about two years, works and looks good. Used the extra hole in the sink for a soap dispenser.

hj
09-20-2012, 05:00 PM
quote; I am only going on what the plumber who sold me the faucet said. I will go back and check the documentation

Call the manufacturer, not the plumber. He wants to SELL you a new faucet, not install a free replacemnt.

higgledy
01-26-2013, 09:52 AM
I am replacing my Delta kitchen faucet, it is really old and just worn out. Is their a difference in quality between the Delta/Moen products sold at the big box stores vs. a plumbing supply stores? I have not checked prices with the plumbing supply, but nothing at Lowes is more than $250. Most prices are are around $100 something has to be different. Thanks.

Terry
01-26-2013, 10:03 AM
The box stores sometimes carry something similar with a different model number. We tend to find more plastic in those.
I've also seen boxes that have been returned and put back on the shelf. Sometimes with old parts in them.
It's really frustrating to be supplied a faucet by a homeowner and then find that it leaks, a swapped cartridge in a new faucet.

higgledy
01-26-2013, 10:13 AM
Thanks Terry. That must be frustrating.
Do I wait till Monday to buy something from the local plumbing supply or buy from a big box today? The current faucet won't turn off. It is a Delta, single handle. I think the pin broke off because it's handle spins (360). Is that repairable? I would have hired a plumber but it broke as I was leaving for work yesterday morning.

higgledy
01-26-2013, 10:21 AM
I also need to replace the shut off valves under my kitchen sink. It's copper pipe and I am good at soldering. I bought two 1/4 turn valves made by Keeney. Do I remove the guts of the valve prior to soldering? I know with other valves the heat will destroy the rubber gasket, but I don't about this valve. Thanks.

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=272036-143-K2781PCLF&langId=-1&storeId=10151&productId=3180171&catalogId=10051&cmRelshp=rel&rel=nofollow&cId=PDIO1

jimbo
01-26-2013, 10:23 AM
The biggest problem with the box stores is that they continue to FAIL to prevent shelf merchandise from being "tampered" with, and to keep returns , which clearly have been opened and " fiddled" with, from being restocked as new on the shelf. The theory is always sell more by being "user friendly", and let the chips fall where they may. The basic "guts" are almost always the same. You will find a plastic drain assembly in a lav, for example, where at a supply house you can order all plastic, 50/50, or all metal. Your choice. They sometimes carry a model which is exclusive to that store. That is usually just slightly different handles, so they can have a proprietary model name.

The debate about whether the manufacturers pawn-off "seconds" or factory rejects, onto the box stores.....well that will continue longer than Diane Feinstein vs. the NRA!!!

higgledy
01-26-2013, 10:41 AM
The biggest problem with the box stores is that they continue to FAIL to prevent shelf merchandise from being "tampered" with, and to keep returns , which clearly have been opened and " fiddled" with, from being restocked as new on the shelf. The theory is always sell more by being "user friendly", and let the chips fall where they may. The basic "guts" are almost always the same. You will find a plastic drain assembly in a lav, for example, where at a supply house you can order all plastic, 50/50, or all metal. Your choice. They sometimes carry a model which is exclusive to that store. That is usually just slightly different handles, so they can have a proprietary model name.

The debate about whether the manufacturers pawn-off "seconds" or factory rejects, onto the box stores.....well that will continue longer than Diane Feinstein vs. the NRA!!!


Thanks for your insight on faucets. BTW, Let's hope Feinstein loses!