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DonL
04-26-2011, 02:04 PM
Hello all,

What is best to use for watering a garden ?

Soft-water or water directly from a water well before it goes threw a softener.

I have some iron in my well water.

Thanks for any experience that you may have.

Have a great day.

DonL

LLigetfa
04-26-2011, 04:27 PM
None of the above.

Plants like rain water. Salt softened water is not a close substitute. Potassium softened water is a little better.

Smooky
04-26-2011, 05:04 PM
Softeners add sodium to the water. So it is better to use water directly from the well.

Cookie
04-26-2011, 06:27 PM
I have a rain barrel which collects the rain water and, this is what I use to water my indoor & outdoor plants how feasible it is to water a garden is questionable though.

DonL
04-27-2011, 08:03 AM
Thank You all for the input.

I do have a rain barrel Cookie, but it has been so dry I have been filling it up with the water hose.

I keep it mainly for the wildlife. They drink about 2 to 3 inches a day.
I use soft water for my fish in the pond, They like to be a little slick. The salt helps them also.

Maybe I need to get another rain barrel.

It has been over 90 days sense we have had any measurable rain.

Thanks all, Have a Great Day.

DonL.

Cookie
04-27-2011, 05:14 PM
Kind of reminds me of the movie, with Diane Keaton, Baby Boom, in it, her well went dry, the wellman comes and she tells him to fill it up with the garden hose, lol.

DonL
04-28-2011, 08:08 AM
Hello all,

I have not seen that movie Cookie.

Some time we go out of our way to take care of the wildlife.

I at least like to make sure they have water. They have plenty to eat in my forest.

I just wonder if they get spoiled. They probably laugh behind our backs, lol.

Have a Great Day.

DonL

Cookie
04-28-2011, 08:32 AM
I love my wildlife so much so, that I make my neighbor's crazy. I feed the deer which eats their shrubs and flowers and I do hear about it. One time, a deer gave birth on my lawn, and it took forever for his mom to come back, until, then, I took care of him. Well, he is huge today. I don't know if you saw my last avatar of a little deer, but that was him. My one neighbor hates them but his eyesight is bad and while my baby deer and I were out in the back playing one day, he yelled over, " is that a deer?" I said, " that is the new neighbor's dog down the road." :)

In the picture, the cat wants out and the new neighbor's dog wants in!

DonL
04-28-2011, 08:40 AM
Very nice Cookie.

I like to see the cats teeth chatter, when they see something out side.

Nice Looking Deer.

Enjoy the Day, It is nice in Texas today.

DonL

Cookie
04-28-2011, 08:58 AM
Rain delay today. But still work. Here is a pic of my Cooper hawk, Popcorn. He comes down when I sit on the deck, I feed him... popcorn. When he was little like this picture, I made him a poached egg, you know he loved it. I am surprised cause I can pet his head and pick up his feet. :)

He's cool.

oops, that's my neighbor's cat. Try again.

DonL
04-28-2011, 03:06 PM
That is nice Cookie.

Does the bird and cat get along ?

Here where I live they frown on people taking in wildlife, But it is better than their alternative.

We need more people like You on this earth.

Have a great evening.

DonL

Cookie
04-28-2011, 08:02 PM
If you talked to my neighbor's they would say... less people.

I have 2 cats, one is actually 23 years old, the one at the door, he is great. They both stay indoors. The other one came with papers from the rescue saying he was deaf. Oh, boy he is a sweetheart, so funny. After many months of trying to figure out how to train a deaf cat, I learned something new, CATS CAN FAKE YOU OUT! HE is not deaf! Ask him if he wants a "treat." He hears me. That is funny.

The bird, the deer and other wildlife, and neighbor's cats, stay outside. Except in winter I bring my neighbor's cat in. She is a sweetheart. And, my 23 year old cat asked one day, " what is that?" I said, " something you don't want to know about now, lol."

The younger one knows. EVEN though he is fixed he knows, and wants to scratch out the eyes of the person who did this to him. She's a beauty.

My baby deer is fully grown now. Believe this or not, he comes around at night and waits for me on the side. He gently rubs his antlers, when they are there of course, on my legs, and I got to pet his head. He is very nice. I leave apples out for him. And, other things. One day, or night, he brought around his babies... So amazing. I do think I spend more time outside my house than in it.

I got an amazing chipmunk. His name is Chipper, if you want I will post his pic. It took no time in making friends with him. I started by leaving him some nuts etc. And, now he brings back the empties. LOL. I have to give him more, and then, he leaves me something. He left me a bunch of twigs one time, and dirt. I didn't know if he was objecting to the menu or times got lean in the bushes.

I am able to, believe this or not, give him a berry, and i can shake his paw, and then, he knows, he extends the other wanting another berry. He can get very loud, if I forget to leave him something, they do make a sound like a chirp.

LLigetfa
04-28-2011, 09:57 PM
Eh Cookie, maybe you could come do your Pied Piper thing and get rid of the deer, squirrels, skunks, and whatever wildlife that are a nuisance here. At first, when we bought the 18 acres here, the wife was so enamoured with the wildlife that she fed and otherwise encouraged them. Now she prefixes them with "damn" as in "those damn deer" since they destroy her shrubs and gardens.

They are welcome to 15 of the acres out back. I just wish we could keep them out of the 3 acres around the house.

Cookie
04-29-2011, 08:17 AM
ha ha ha ha, I can just see it. :)
Well, tell your wife she can't have her cake & eat it, too. She got choices to make. They got to eat and since, we really do invade their natural habit by building in it as we do, we should be nice enough to share what really belongs to them anyways. But, if you want to keep deer off of something it is pretty simple, you can do as my neighbor's do and plants things they don't like, or surround the garden with a high enough fence or flowers, they don't like. You can find tons of information on the net by googling those key words. My one neighbor doesn't like ground hogs, against twpship ordiance he walks around looking like Jermiah Johnson with a rifle looking for them. He asked me this one day, if I saw the pesky groundhog, I shook my head in no particular answer all the while, watching the groundhog watching me from behind his woodpile. Eventually, I said, " I think he went that-a-way pointing over across the road, giving the groundhog a thumbs up to get away. Which he took.

One day, sadly, people will look out their window and only see their other neighbor's house and nothing, of real beauty & nature will be left. Unless, you consider bricks or siding a thing of wonder.

DonL
04-29-2011, 08:18 AM
Hello all,

Yes Cookie I would not mind seeing a Picture of Chipper if you have one handy.

I have many Pests also, but You have to take the good with the bad, unfortunately.

I was using an electric fences to keep pest out, but they get smart.

I had a mini plum tree last year and was waiting for the plums to ripen, and a squirrel came and took every one of them.
I would not have minded sharing with the squirrels, But they did not want to share with me.

They will be after my pecans this year.

Have a great day.

DonL

Cookie
04-29-2011, 09:11 AM
I got the picture of Chipper. :) ( I am supposed to be working) This is where he leaves me his refillables and presents.

Funny, my one neighbor who helped me with the baby deer, he would take turns bottle feeding it, is great. And, he, back then was in his late 70's. He warned me about out other neighbor who earned his nickname, Meatball Mike by making poison meatballs and distributing them around the outside his house to get rid of cats, dogs, little chippers, and the like. Anything which eats a meatball. Not good. But, some folks you can't tell anything to, they know it all. Between my other neighbor and I we took care of his meatballs for him.

DonL
04-29-2011, 10:04 AM
That is a nice picture. Is it me or is it a little out of focus ?

My outdoor cats bring me field mice and put them on the front porch.

I wonder why they do that ?

I hope You don't work to hard.

Are you a network administrator ? Working at home ?

Have a nice afternoon.

DonL

Cookie
04-29-2011, 12:59 PM
It is my photography skills. lol. Good aren't they, want to hire me? Let me do your wedding... :)
I think your cats like you, and are bringing you a treat or a present. Myself, I would thank them, but not partake in it, too rich in protein for my diet. I wear many hats for a living, you wouldn't believe, but network administrator is not one of them, and, I bet the masses of people who depend on it working is glad or should be, lol

I work very hard when the boss is around.

DonL
04-29-2011, 01:50 PM
I would hire you if your pictures were in focus, lol.

I though it was me getting old.

I do network administration was why I was asking.

Should I take the presents that the cats bring to me. I normally leave them there.
Would they feel better if i collect them ?

Animals are smarter than they are given credit for.

They are like a woman, I like to see them happy. They provide more than people realize...

Have a great evening.

DonL

Cookie
04-29-2011, 04:43 PM
I wouldn't leave them lay around, lol. If I knew more about my computers I could fix mine. :) Work is what did mine in. I do alot on the computer out of necessity and, for the ease of it. I do evaulations for kids with special needs, I write, RE, and as added fun, I work a small job at a retail shop, thanks to the economy. In other words, it is with me, or I am with it. I have an office I try not to visit it too often, for I wouldn't want them to get the wrong idea. I think the USA needs a woman president it would make all men start to pay attention to what is going on, lol. Are you tech support with a provider?

I am woman.

Cookie
04-30-2011, 07:20 AM
Since you mentioned about what to do with your "presents" I will tell you about my own pet cementary. My house fronts a rather busy road and the first year we moved in I walked outside to find the first animal laying in the driveway. A month later, another. A week later another. It was good that I got one great neighbor who drags them down the driveway ( I won't partake in this event) and he buries them for me. So far to this date, we got 2 chickens, 55 raccoons, and things which I can't and won't even describe what they once was in life. One day while sitting out on the deck my brother said, " that is a great place for a gazebo." Yeah... in his dreams.

LLigetfa
04-30-2011, 07:32 AM
Speaking of "presents", my cat brought in a live one last night and decided to turn it loose in the house. I managed to catch the mouse and return it to the outdoors. As much as I consider the wildlife pests, I do them no harm despite all the harm they inflict.

Cookie
04-30-2011, 07:47 AM
One thing you can tell your wife is this. Wildlife increases the value & desirablity of your property. I am not kidding. People can put in an inground pool and it almost, always depending on its area, will lose value! But, tell a newbie buyer that you got deer and they are so thrilled! They want that moment like on that movie with Chevy Chase, Funnyfarm, if you ever saw it, where they "cued" the deer, for a potential buyer.

That by the way, to catch the mouse, is very kind of you, and very respectful. I like that.

hj
04-30-2011, 08:29 AM
quote; It has been over 90 days sense we have had any measurable rain.

Around here, rain every 90 days would be a monsoon.

DonL
04-30-2011, 12:50 PM
Hello All,

hj, I can not imagine hardly any rain on a normal basis. I guess you don't have much grass to mow, that would be nice.

Cookie, Every time I have found a dead animal and buried it, the dogs that run around here would dig it up. Guess I did not go deep enough.
as for the question "Are you tech support with a provider?" I just do my own thing with my Security and Computer company.

I need to get my rear in gear and get the rest of my garden going. I have some tomatoes on the vines, I just hope I get them before the wildlife does.

Have a Great Day.

DonL

Cookie
04-30-2011, 01:53 PM
I found a trick that works with gardens although, not acreage. When a friend called me for help with his garden concening the deer taking one bite out of each ear of his corn I told him to do something which might sound funny but, I had success with everytime.

I have 2 sons and with it loads of laundry, lots of dirty socks. I told my friend who has 3 sons, to take their dirty socks and pull them down onto the top of a stick placing a stick & white sock, on each corner of the garden, and one midway of each largest side. I have a garden each year, no fencing, just the dirty socks, and they never touch anything in it. ( sometimes, I don't want to, lol.)

Around the bottom of the garden I frame it here and there, with a wooden strip, & on the wooden strip, I rip up a white plastic disposable bag tying it around it. When, the wind blows the bag blows and they won't go near it.

It is very simple and very effective. It also, entertains the neighbors, which I have noticed, they copy at times. :) When my kids go looking for their socks they look out the windows. They love me.

DonL
05-01-2011, 04:54 AM
Good Morning,

Thanks Cookie, I will have to try that. Do the socks have to be dirty ?

I have had dogs dig up my melon seeds, and Cows eat the tops off of all my corn.

I did have a garden owl and it worked for birds, kept them from eating my fish.

I guess the wildlife is just doing what is natural. Can not really blame them.

Have a Great Day.

DonL

Cookie
05-01-2011, 07:09 AM
I know it sounds crazy, but, yes Don, they got to be dirty, :)
My sons are linebacker size, wearing size 15 shoes...

Do you need big socks? I don't know, lol.

DonL
05-01-2011, 10:52 AM
Hello Cookie,

I only wear a size 13. How long do I need to wear them. lol

Enjoy Your May Day.

DonL

Cookie
05-01-2011, 04:22 PM
Until, they are really offensive, lol. or, become an environmental issue.

DonL
05-03-2011, 06:51 AM
Good Morning,

I guess I would have to wear them for a week to become offensive. My feet don't sweat much.

I got my garden in. I put up a chicken wire fence to keep the cats out, they think it is a large litter box.

We get two seasons here, that is nice. Just have to worry about a hurricane wiping the garden out.

I hope Your garden does good this year. With the price of veggies, everyone can use one.

I am still undecided if I should use Well water or soft water. Rain water is not a option, we have had none.


Have a great day.

DonL

Cookie
05-03-2011, 04:23 PM
I would use well water if those were my choices. I hope my garden does well, too. I got to put it in yet. I use my deck too, I got large containers for tomatoes. I would like to do a separate patch for herbs, like I used to do, now, time is of the essence. I used to grow 5 different types of basil and sell it to the neighboring restaurant which my neighbor owns. I grew alot of it, all because I love to do it. I love the smell. It overpowers the socks. :)

That picture, avatar, is my newborn deer. It was blazing hot that May, so I sheltered him. I woke up and nearly, tripped on him going to the mailbox. What a neat present.

The road is right beyond it, so, I wrote on the box which you can't see, " One buck to see the buck." and, a walker, taped a buck to it! Lol.

DonL
05-04-2011, 06:36 PM
I might try well water on one of my gardens and soft water on the other, and compare the results.

That may be a good test.

I think the well water would be better.

Heck back in the day there was no soft water, Gardens grew good.

If I depended on rain, I would not grow anything, as hot as it has been here.

Thank You.

DonL