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Ian Gills
03-06-2011, 05:35 PM
Look, climate changing is happening and Americans caused it through their love of gas.

I know that. You know that. But you didn't listen to me so you found out late.

It happens. So let bygones be bygones.

Anyway, $5 gas is on the way.

So now is time to move to greener energies.

That way the environment benefits and you suckers won't have to suffer $5 gas again.

My proposal is to tax gas so it stays at least $5 (gas is over $8/gallon in England right now).

That way alternative energies will be given a boost and you'll all drive a little less and in smaller cars.

And we'll knock a chunk in the deficit too.

Win-win-win.

Cookie
03-06-2011, 05:42 PM
It takes me 7 minutes to get to work one way. Granted I am doing 90 miles an hour but it only takes 7 minutes to get there.

If I don't use the brake at all coming home, I can do it in 5 minutes.
I don't require much gas, I coast down the hills.

Dunbar Plumbing
03-08-2011, 06:11 PM
I hope it climbs to $8/gallon to keep only the workforce on the road.

Make driving your vehicle only a necessity and not some free parade car you think is okay to go to walmart for a new cd, because you can.


I just charge a subcharge and pass it on... it's the way business is.

Ian Gills
03-08-2011, 07:19 PM
I think the public need to start using public transport.

And licensed electricians and plumbers need to start using diesels.

The days of a gas-powered van or truck are numbered.

Thank goodness.

The planet will breathe again.

Cookie
03-09-2011, 09:50 AM
No disrespect intended Ian, but I wonder how much gas & electricity the palace uses? So far as cars, I think, the companies who make them should design them to be more energy efficient instead of trying to make the largest buck possible in sales. People would buy more energy efficient cars if the price tag reflected what they could afford. Just like healthy food, it is always more expensive than a loaf of white bread, eh. People cannot understand why the poorest people in our country are the fattest. It is because the food they can afford to buy are the most unhealthiest and bulk them up. It is called, survival for some, which is unfortunate. So far as public transportation, add more people to them, then, they add more buses. Those buses polute the air more than any 20 cars could. Plus, I rode those buses and sat behind a man who was wearing a trenchcoat and boots. I didn't know he was naked until, the police took him off, lol. I am not fond of public transportation.

ballvalve
03-09-2011, 09:54 AM
I think the public need to start using public transport.

And licensed electricians and plumbers need to start using diesels.

The days of a gas-powered van or truck are numbered.

Thank goodness.

The planet will breathe again.

Been smoking some pasties? Those monstrous diesel hog engines they put in a service truck are a POS. Enough horsepower for a 48,000# excavator. Actually mine has only 162 fine John Deere American HP and it starts first click and blows no smoke. And it would pick up 12 of those loaded service trucks without getting above idle.

Give those service trucks a 4 cylinder Volkwagon diesel and 12 gears, then we can talk. Or a John Deere 4 cylinder from a 550 series dozer. And regenerative braking with a few batteries, like the new garbage trucks are being built with.

But an efficient 4 cylinder diesel in an American plumbers truck would not get his testosterone level up, and poor guy would be branded a wimp by his peacock buds with the fire breathing 300HP of click clacking diesel junque.

Public transport in Kansas, Wyoming and the High Sierras? Good luck. You will need to start issuing gas stamps to even it all out.

ON ROAD US diesel engines for pick-ups are absolute rubbish. Take a look at the ford-International diesel engine forum. laughable. And that Cummins hog that sounds like the rods are coming through the heads.

And by the way, the only INHERENT advantge to a diesel is that the fuel has more BTU's [British!] per kilo than gas.

Ian Gills
03-09-2011, 11:40 AM
The European diesel engines are coming and you yanks are going to love 'em.

I suggest you start stocking up on some diesel pumps at the gas stations now.

Lots of power.

Great gas mileage.

And fewer, fill-ups at the pump.

The American dream.

Move over softies. Turbo diesels are coming to Town.

As for public transport, we need to pay for extended coverage using tax dollars. Through which, I mean the rich need to contribute more. In England, I can get from somewhere to anywhere through a combination of walking, bus and rail. America is a backwater in contrast. In the US, you often run out of sidewalk if you try to get anywhere on two legs.

American people just don't wanna pay taxes. Which means when the gas does run out, England will work and America will not.

On that day the King will return.

Ian Gills
03-09-2011, 04:39 PM
By the way, this does all of course mean that you guys, with British support, will be going into Libya.

I'm expecting the US to decide to take out Libyan air support.

Not so much in the name of freedom or to protect civilians, but more to keep the price of oil steady - although that will never be admitted.

Watch this space...

Redwood
03-09-2011, 08:59 PM
Not so much in the name of freedom or to protect civilians, but more to keep the price of oil steady - although that will never be admitted.

Considering that we import less than 0.68% of our oil from Libya I would say that if the reason they cite is the oil we are getting lied to...

The way I see it is Big Oil and the Military Industries are lining up for another round of profit taking.

Tom Sawyer
03-10-2011, 03:42 AM
The American public lied to. Say it ain't so Joe

ballvalve
03-11-2011, 08:33 AM
The american public would score low on an SAT test. Better to lie to them.

Cookie
03-11-2011, 10:40 AM
Filled the gas tank up this morning at 3.49 a gallon. It cost me 44 bucks. Was in shock, so I had to buy a McDonald's ice cream cone to bring me around.

Dunbar Plumbing
03-11-2011, 01:38 PM
I just blew up a family pack of ramein noodles in protest of their price increases on my favorite neeeeeeeeeewduls.

sjson
05-11-2011, 08:34 AM
hahah dunbar plumbing. We are slowly transitioning to a greener environment, but it will take years for public transportation to be efficient and effective in the states. The infrastructure in some states is a mess. It's like trying to sort out which wires to cut to defuse a bomb. An interesting thing to note though is, self-driving cars are not too far away either. We will be able to fit more cars on the road, improve gas efficiency, lower the number of accidents.

DonL
05-11-2011, 09:01 AM
Was this a Joke ?


I think the public need to start using public transport.

And licensed electricians and plumbers need to start using diesels.

The days of a gas-powered van or truck are numbered.

Thank goodness.

The planet will breathe again.

So you think Diesels Burn Cleaner ?

Or is that A Joke, O I forgot You are a Joker.

The best place for a Diesel engine is in a Locomotive, Oil Drill Rig Generators and off road equipment.

Not in Street Legal Automobiles. Just because they give more bang for the buck.

Sounds like You have been breathing Diesel Fumes to long.

Have a Great Day.

DonL.

LOTW
05-11-2011, 10:02 AM
Filled the gas tank up this morning at 3.49 a gallon. It cost me 44 bucks. Was in shock, so I had to buy a McDonald's ice cream cone to bring me around.

My spies in Ontario today tell me that gas is 1.50 canadian per liter which when you figure in the exchange rate to US currency is approximately $6.20 US per gallon.

jacobsond
05-11-2011, 10:49 AM
Just to make one thing clear there is no oil or gas(natural) shortage.Oil is the most cost effective source of energy (and alot of other stuff) there is.To tax a product out of existence is un-American in my opinion. The subsidies for the "green products" only make them competitive with the oil products. It does not make them better. Anyone that thinks that mass transit is the way to go has never been out of the city or metro area.In ND mass transit is 4 guys in your pickup. Do electric cars keep you warm and running down the road at -20deg F? Do electric cars keep you cool in traffic at 110deg F? Driving across the country can you fill up your vehicle with electricity or are you going to go with gas? $5 gas is political $8 would be very political.If anything cut the evil oil companies subsidies AND open up everything to drilling. We would be back down to $2 gas are economy would takeoff. Green energy is only good if you dont need the energy all the time. There is always oil backup. Someone prove me wrong.

Ian Gills
05-11-2011, 06:13 PM
But oil is not carbon neutral. And carbon emissions are heating the world up with potentially disasterous consequences.

Include the cost of carbon damage in fuel (a tax) and let the market decide.

At the moment the market for oil is failing because Americans are not paying for the environmental damage their fuel consumption causes.

Your freedom is harming other people (flooding low lying areas, for example).

So let's tax coal, oil and other carbon emissions.

But you won't do that will you.

Because of the Founding Fathers...

I wonder what your grandchildren will some day think of them.

Nuclear energy and electric cars are the only answer if you do not kill us all first.

jacobsond
05-12-2011, 10:31 AM
Is the nuclear waste safe? I dont think so. I would rather have a natural gas power plant in my back yard than a nuke. Natural gas is plentiful in the US so why go nuke.The electric car proponents always forget how they get their electricity. Coal, gas,oil and hydro with a little nuke in there.Wind is a joke and so is solar.So guess what your not getting away from fossil fuels until a brand new way can be developed. And to tax people into the poorhouse is done by elite ruling class people spitting on the rest of us.If anyone thinks their taxes are to low they are free to give ALL their money to the government so they can leave us hard working (rich and poor) people alone.

ballvalve
05-12-2011, 12:25 PM
Eliminate the child tax credits and put birth control into coca cola and pepsi, top ramen, sushi and curry powder, and the world will solve all its carbon issues in a few generations.

We are just lemmings heading for a cliff. Soylent green..........ITS PEOPLE!!

Ian Gills
05-12-2011, 05:10 PM
Gas should be taxed higher because poor people do not own big cars.

Rich people do.

Tax the rich and save the environment.

Natural gas is just as bad. We need a carbon neutral solution or at least tax the carbon fuels so that the damage they cause to the climate is internalized in the cost.

With nuclear, the problem is at your back door.

With natural gas, your problem becomes some poor person's living on a low lying island.

So man up America and take responsibility for the damage you are causing by at least paying for it.

Tax carbon fuels.

SteveW
05-12-2011, 06:15 PM
Poor people, however, drive old cars, and can't afford to maintain them properly so don't get the best mileage.

Another way to reduce carbon emissions is to stop exhaling CO2.

nukeman
05-13-2011, 05:38 AM
If we used more nat. gas for electricity, you wouldn't like your electric bill. Natural gas is typically the most expensive way to generate electricity and is typically only used during peak loads. The price of nat. gas also jumps all over the place, so one month/year you might have a reasonable electric bill and the next month/year the bill could be 2x-3x more. Coal and nuke have the lowest operating costs of any fueled plant (and the operating costs are stable) and these are what we use for our base load. However, building new coal plants is nearly impossible these days. People don't want them around. Often, if utilities want to add say 1000 MW of coal, they also have to remove 1000 MW of older coal plants.

Nuke is about your only option for a large power source in a small area with low generation costs. Solar/wind take up too much land for what you get out of them. They can supplement here and there, but aren't good solutions to meet a significant portion of the current energy demands.

jacobsond
05-13-2011, 05:59 AM
We we going to have a new cleaner burning coal plant up in our region Big Stone 2.Lots of money was spent permits were granted things were looking good. Then the EPA under the new President canceled everything. Now there is no plant and the loss of money is being paid in higher electrical rates. So now we rely on the old coal plant that puts out more emissions than the new would have.Way to go EPA and the "green" movement.I wonder how many "green" people would be upset if they could only have power 50% of the time only get 1/2 the gas they needed. Are all the "green" people walking and riding bikes and sitting in the dark at home. Not a chance I think. Then there is the man made global warming hoax. Look back in history there has been a man made climate hoax every 20-30yrs going from Ice age to Global warming.

Ian Gills
05-13-2011, 03:52 PM
The very day I arrived in America I understood why the world was warming up.

There are just too many cars.

The bottom line is that this country has built its wealth on the basis of under-priced energy. And that will have to change.

And when it does it will have profound implications for this country which is simply too big.

You should have all stayed in England (and bred less).

The fact that I can buy stuff from a store in California that is shipped by truck to the East Coast using under-priced gas is the root cause of the problem.

Tax gas. Buy local. And suck it up.

DonL
05-13-2011, 04:15 PM
That is BS Ian,

To think that cars are the problem.

You have no clue.

The Earth has been going threw these changes way before this.

You live in a fantasy world.

Why don't you share your smoke with others ? Must be some good stuff. I hope they taxed it.


DonL

If You don't like it here, then You can take the slow boat to china, Maybe you would be happy there.

SteveW
05-13-2011, 04:47 PM
Don't let him get to you, Don. After a while, you realize that "Ian" is just stirring the pot and trying to annoy Americans. No way he could actually buy into most if not all the provocative things he says here.

Cookie
05-13-2011, 05:57 PM
I am interested in knowing what he thinks doesn't have to be taxed. I can't figure one thing.

Ian Gills
05-13-2011, 07:16 PM
Things that are bad for you or for society should be taxed more highly to discourage consumption.

Cigarettes.

Alcohol.

Soft drinks.

Gas.

Churches.

Country music.

NASCAR

The bottom line is that you can ignore me. But $8/gallon gas will be a reality for America sooner than you think. And that day, for the sake of the climate, cannot come soon enough. The kids of today will think very differently about these issues when they grow up than you/we do.

The future is electric cars and nuclear power. Future generations will look at smoke from a tailpipe with the same disgust as we would of someone pouring used engine oil down a storm drain (your parents would have thought nothing of doing that).

Cookie
05-13-2011, 07:41 PM
Why do you think 8 bucks a gallon is going to be such a hard reality for Americans? Americans have lived through already such harsh times, harsher times than you know, Ian. I think, you do not understand the backbone of America. We are a strong people who pull together Ian, we do not need a King to dictate to us; Ian, we got choices, we got rights, and we are proud to be an American.

The climate Ian, is a natural process, is not due to the cars, and by the way, you want electric, Ian, what and where does electric come from? Think about it.

It is fine to tax, but to tax to death even the rich is not right. They have a right to be taxed fairly just as well as you and I. Those things are taxed already which you mentioned. The rich is already paying their fair share and then, some.

Most of the price of gas is based on the price of per barrel of oil, how much should the gasoline tax be?

wmills
05-14-2011, 03:43 AM
Should charge at least 45% for non citizen immigrants.

Cookie
05-14-2011, 09:04 AM
It might happen. There is talk at our university about the jobs always going to non-citizens. In my neck of the woods it is causing quite a discussion, people are tired of not getting a job and seeing others not even from the states get it first because they will take less pay. I am not getting on anyone just for the sake of it, I am just being honest. Things are going to change. Americans are also tired of the outsourcing, tired of getting someone whom they cannot understand on the phone for assistance with their bill or whatever, complaint. I have noticed at my bank at the university, at the ATM, they had removed the mode where you push to pick a language. Now it is English or nothing. It is a small event yet, this move speaks volumes.

Ian Gills
05-14-2011, 09:12 AM
If you want low prices you are going to need that cheap labor.

And if there is one thing I know about Americans, they love low prices.

I think you should all be paying a bit more.

Let's start with gas.

Cookie
05-14-2011, 09:19 AM
Ian, do you have high blood pressure?

and, you never did answer about how much a gasoline tax should be?
and, why are your school kids going hungry and without underwear?

where is all the "free" lunches?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...nd-hungry.html


One teacher from Nottingham told of a sixth-former who had not eaten for three days as her “mother had no money at all until pay day”.

A teaching assistant from a West Midlands comprehensive told researchers that some pupils had “infected toes due to feet squashed into shoes way too small”, while another member from Halifax reported a boy who was ridiculed in the PE changing room because his family could not afford to buy him any underpants.

Ian Gills
05-14-2011, 09:51 AM
Yes, I do have high blood pressure.

No child is left behind in England. Children from poor families get free school dinners, free music tuition and other help e.g. Government contributions towards school uniform, for example. I should know. I received those benefits.

Where it really counts is after you leave school. I was able to go to university with Government support.

It's common sense. Because I've paid all that back in higher taxes through having a higher income.

America doesn't seem to be able to do the math when it comes to that.

It needs to kick the budget ceiling down the road and remember that the deficit has two dimensions: expenditures and taxes.

America needs to raise taxes, particularly on those that provide jobs.

Let's see where those people that provide jobs then go. *Hint*: nowhere.

Cookie
05-14-2011, 10:01 AM
Didn't you read this?

And, by the way, you are paying taxes here, not back to England who gave you your education. Do you get health care here for your high blood pressure? When Obama said to "share" I don't think he meant, your blood pressure!


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...nd-hungry.html

Teachers are reporting a rise in pupils entering the classroom feeling tired, hungry and dressed in worn-out clothes.

A study by the Association of Teachers and Lecturers found almost eight-in-10 staff had pupils living below the poverty line and a quarter believed numbers had increased since the start of the recession.

One teacher from Nottingham told of a sixth-former who had not eaten for three days as her “mother had no money at all until pay day”.

A teaching assistant from a West Midlands comprehensive told researchers that some pupils had “infected toes due to feet squashed into shoes way too small”, while another member from Halifax reported a boy who was ridiculed in the PE changing room because his family could not afford to buy him any underpants.

Some teachers told how pupils were consistently late for lessons as parents could not cover the bus fare to school. Other children from middle to lower income families have been forced to cut out school tips because money is so tight, it was claimed.


The disclosure follows the publication of figures showing a rise in the number of pupils eligible for free school meals as families struggle to stay above the breadline in the recession.

Almost 1.2 million five- to 16-year-olds claimed free lunches last year – a rise of more than 83,000 in just 12 months.

Mary Bousted, ATL general secretary, claimed that problems would escalate further because of Government funding cuts – putting the Coalition’s social mobility drive in jeopardy.

“It is appalling that in 2011 so many children in the UK are severely disadvantaged by their circumstances and fail to achieve their potential,” she said.

“What message does this government think it is sending young people when it is cutting funding for Sure Start centres, cutting the Education Maintenance Allowance, raising tuition fees and making it harder for local authorities to provide health and social services.

“The Government should forget empty rhetoric about social mobility and concentrate on tackling the causes of deprivation and barriers to attainment that lock so many young people into a cycle of poverty.”

The ATL, which represents 160,000 school staff, surveyed members ahead of its annual conference in Liverpool next week.

Some 86 per cent said poverty was having a negative impact on pupils’ ability to learn. Eight-in-10 said pupils from the very poorest families came to school tired, three-quarters claimed they arrived hungry and some 72 per cent suggested they were unable to complete homework.

Four-in-10 said poverty levels had increased over the last three years. The comments follow claims from Lesley Ward, former ATL president, that poverty levels in some parts of Britain now mirror "the times of Dickens".

Craig Macartney, a secondary school teacher from Suffolk, said: “More children from middle to lower income families are not going on school trips and these families find it difficult to meet the basic cost of living.

“A family with two or three teenage children who have one earner who loses hours, or their job, will struggle to reach the minimum income to pay for basics.

“This will get worse as the impact of the cuts affects families. The number of young people with mental health problems has been on the increase in the last three years.”

Anne Pegum, a further education college teacher from Herfordshire said: “We have students who miss classes because they cannot afford the bus fare or cost of other transport to get to college.

“We have students who miss out on meals because they do not have money to pay for them and in some cases then feel unwell and have to be helped by our first-aiders.”

A spokesman for the Department for Education said: “We’re overhauling the welfare and schools systems precisely to tackle entrenched worklessness, family breakdown, low educational achievement and financial insecurity.

“We’re targeting investment directly at the poorest families. The most disadvantaged two year olds will get 15 hours free child care.

“We’re focusing Sure Start at the poorest families, with 4200 extra health visitors. We’re opening academies in areas failed educationally for generations and bringing in the Pupil Premium to target an extra 2.5billion a year directly at students that need the most support”.

Tom Sawyer
05-14-2011, 10:21 AM
www.ap1000.westinghousenuclear.com/

For those that are ignorant of how far the neuclear industry has come.

DonL
05-14-2011, 10:22 AM
If you want low prices you are going to need that cheap labor.

And if there is one thing I know about Americans, they love low prices.

I think you should all be paying a bit more.

Let's start with gas.

We already pay about 50% in taxes, and Fees.

Why not just start charging money to take a Poop, in your own toilet, Measure Your turds and pay by the inch.

Don't call it a Tax, call it a fee to pee...

Ian, You need to contribute too your local Church and maybe they will forgive you for being such an ass.

Have a Great Day.

DonL

ballvalve
05-14-2011, 04:41 PM
www.ap1000.westinghousenuclear.com/

For those that are ignorant of how far the neuclear industry has come.

And this: http://www.ap1000.westinghousenuclear.com/ap1000_safety.html

It is pathetic that KISS in engineering took so long to make it to nuclear. They should be building these like volkswagons.

How can the Japs build the Prius and be so ignorant as to place nuclear crap plants ON the ocean front with the back up water systems in the face of the KNOWN to be arriving Tsunami?

Buy a Ford.

Atom
05-14-2011, 04:56 PM
What you meant to say was that diesel has more energy content per volume, not per unit of mass. The heating value of gasoline and diesel on a per Kg basis are about the same with gasoline being slightly higher.

ballvalve
05-18-2011, 11:16 AM
Things that are bad for you or for society should be taxed more highly to discourage consumption.

Cigarettes.

Alcohol.

Soft drinks.

Gas.

Churches.

Country music.

NASCAR

The bottom line is that you can ignore me. But $8/gallon gas will be a reality for America sooner than you think. And that day, for the sake of the climate, cannot come soon enough. The kids of today will think very differently about these issues when they grow up than you/we do.

The future is electric cars and nuclear power. Future generations will look at smoke from a tailpipe with the same disgust as we would of someone pouring used engine oil down a storm drain (your parents would have thought nothing of doing that).

Good on you!
Lets add:

Soccer
Football
Baseball
Boxing
Prostitution
Chocolate
Rap
Music videos
v-8 engines in autos
Cats-cat food
Pit bulls

Now we can have a 4% flat income tax.

Cookie
05-18-2011, 11:18 AM
Ah, not the chocolate. :) I got scared, I thought you were going to say, icecream.

Ian Gills
05-19-2011, 02:24 PM
The size and scope of the Government in this country is not yet large enough.

SteveW
05-19-2011, 06:46 PM
You can't possibly be serious!

The existing Medicare regulations, even before health care reform, are so enormous that no one really understands them all. It is so bad that the federal government has established regional Medicare intermediaries, who get to try to interpret the massive set of regulations for their regions. Thus there aren't uniformly established guidelines across the country - interpretations vary from geographic region to geographic region.

In another example, have you ever spent time at a VA hospital? They deliver fine health care, but you absolutely cannot believe the layers of bureaucracy until you actually witness it firsthand.

And you think MORE government intervention in health care is the answer?

Ian, you are a hoot!

Ian Gills
05-19-2011, 07:04 PM
Not just in healthcare.

In all walks of your life.

Someone needs to get Americans under control.

Tax soft drinks.

Cookie
05-19-2011, 08:12 PM
You can tax the crap out of soft drinks, I don't drink them.
Ian, you should visit one of your VA hospitals you would be amazed at how much good you personally, could do. Instead of relying on your govn to do everything. Everyone some where in their lives has a skill they can offer. They need so much. One of the things I do, is to teach signing, ASL, to a newly, needing vet & to their families. The second thing I do, is when the Vets are diagnosed with the big C, I am there to show them, I am living proof you can survive, the third thing, I won't tell anyone, lol, because it is too funny. Terry knows and he is sworn to secrecy. :)

SteveW
05-20-2011, 05:22 AM
Not just in healthcare.

In all walks of your life.

Someone needs to get Americans under control.

Tax soft drinks.


And there you go!
I've said it before and I'll say it again - "Ian" is clearly just baiting us for the fun of it.

Cookie
05-20-2011, 06:13 AM
Yeah, but at least he has a sense of humor, I'll give him that, at times I laugh cause he can be funny. :) I think, if more people laughed more and saw the humor in things the world would be a much kinder place.

DonL
05-20-2011, 10:12 AM
Hello All,

Yes it is nice for someone to get on their soapbox. Especially now that all the soaps have been canceled on the TV.

Unemployed people have to have something to do, Keep their mind thinking.

What gets me is that almost everyone that I know works for the government, or works for Wal-mart.

That must be 50 percent of all Americans that have work.

And 20 percent of the homeless are Veterans. This picture is WRONG.

Guess it is good that the world ends tomorrow...


Enjoy the day, Take time to play.

Party Hardy, Until the day you die...

That's my plan, and I am sticking to it.


DonL

ballvalve
05-20-2011, 02:07 PM
Legalizing all recreational drugs, with a hefty tax, along with the soft drink and cat food tax, would cut all government costs by the cost of 10 Iraqi wars.

Think of all those murderers in the the jungles of south america having to go back to farming coffee!

Cookie
05-20-2011, 02:22 PM
NO, not the cat food! :)

DonL
05-20-2011, 04:10 PM
Why not cat food Cookie ?

I buy it, and I pay sales tax on it also, in Texas.

Here everything is a Fee instead of tax. Same thing...

Ice cream is next... Ice Cream Fee. Or sin tax.

It is a sin if you can afford Ice Cream.


DonL

Cookie
05-20-2011, 05:27 PM
Nah, actually it is already taxed here. I was just kidding around. :)

DonL
05-20-2011, 05:43 PM
Cat Food should not be taxed, Because People do eat it. Caned with Crackers is best.

I hear that it does taste good.

It is taxed because it is a prepared food.

Un-prepared food is not taxed.

Wont mater after today anyway, LOL.


Have a Great Night.


DonL.

Cookie
05-20-2011, 06:06 PM
Did you notice that I didn't say I was joking, lol, I said, " kidding." :)

I don't think I will ever say, joking, again, lol...

ballvalve
05-21-2011, 11:49 AM
Cat Food should not be taxed, Because People do eat it. Caned with Crackers is best.

I hear that it does taste good.

It is taxed because it is a prepared food.

Un-prepared food is not taxed.

Wont mater after today anyway, LOL.


Have a Great Night.


DonL.

Sardines and canned salmon on sale are cheaper than cat food, and canned at a slightly higher level of freshness.

Cookie
05-21-2011, 03:15 PM
AH, but nothing fresher than going fishing! and, the cost is only a license and gas to get there and back. And, bait. And a rod. Maybe, cheaper to buy a can. :) but, certainly, not as much fun.

DonL
05-21-2011, 03:48 PM
Yes Cookie, that is true, and at least you know that the fish you catch, Don't glow in the dark...

Cookie
05-21-2011, 06:51 PM
Oh, yeah, tuna... contains mercury. But, I never catch much other than a bluegill. BUT, one time I did catch someone's fishing rod, on it was a boot, in the boot was a snake, the snake had a trout. It was great. And, true. And, weird.

I was looking for a wallet. With money. :)

hj
05-22-2011, 08:01 AM
The world didn't end, so I guess I will either have to continue paying for my Lamborghini, or let them repo it.

Cookie
05-25-2011, 09:44 PM
Gas today, paid, 3.69 regular unleaded. Not bad.