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Redwood
02-09-2011, 08:40 PM
While Britain has a public holiday to celebrate Prince William's wedding, one company is taking the party one step further with souvenir condoms that urge lovers to "lie back and think of England."

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Cookie
02-10-2011, 05:36 AM
I got to admit Red, I think, it is funny. The Crown Jewels, lol.

Cookie
02-10-2011, 05:57 AM
I hope they sell them here, I want one as a joke for someone.

Ian Gills
02-10-2011, 09:45 AM
Freedom of speech is a great thing.

We invented it, and you copied it.

The result....funny condoms and people burning flags.

But it's worth it.

Redwood
02-10-2011, 05:41 PM
Freedom of speech is a great thing.

We invented it, and you copied it.

Hmmm As I recall history people came here to get it....

Hardly a British Invention....

Cookie
02-11-2011, 08:21 AM
The company which created the condoms was in your own country. I don't see how you can compare the creation of the condoms made by a UK company to that of someone burning an American Flag... do you care to elaborate or explain? OR, are you talking about those burning YOUR flag of your country?

Either way, is burning a flag a hilarious thing to you? AND, by the way, Ian, if you think your country invented, Freedom of Speech, not so, study your history. Your history is one of violence with the Kings.


http://www.news.com.au/world/crown-jewels-condoms-of-distinction-labelled-tasteless/story-e6frfkyi-1225996669747


Freedom of speech is a great thing.

We invented it, and you copied it.

The result....funny condoms and people burning flags.

But it's worth it.

Ian Gills
02-11-2011, 08:57 AM
First, most of your freedoms (all except the dumb gun one) came from the Magna Carta, an English document dating from the 13th century. Your country did not even exist then. And the space it took up was soon to be ours.

Secondly, the burning of any country's flag in that country, if allowed by law, is a celebration of freedom of speech.

The mere fact that nobody can be punished for burning an American flag in the US or an English flag in England is something that should be very much welcomed.

Remember that the next time you see someone doing that. Don't shout at them. Pat them on the back and thank them for reminding you of your freedoms.

Burn the American flag and be thankful that you are allowed to.

And print images of His and Her Majesties and Royal Highnesses on a packet of condoms. And again be thankful that you are allowed to.

The very principles your country stands for seem to be some of the things that offend you the most.

Like freedom. And yet I cannot buy whisky on a Sunday morning from a gas station on the way to the church or even leave the bottle unopened in the passenger seat for the rest of the drive.

ballvalve
02-11-2011, 09:28 AM
I think your highnesses are owed royalties on their "royal" image.

UN-opened containers of booze are allowed most everywhere I ever heard of. Not too bright to advertise however.

Roll it up in an American flag, the cops might not give you a ticket for whatever he stopped you for.

You cannot buy whisky in that rat hole of a city, although NOW you can buy handguns again. Gives you some idea of the sort that live on the other side of your tracks.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/26/supremecourt/main4211588.shtml

This story about DC gun laws pretty much settles any issues of Americans rights to own weapons.

And on the other EXTREME the Brits in their wisdom, do not allow the pistol shooting teams to shoot in the UK. They travel to Switzerland to pop their guns off!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics

Take note that your Magna Carta included -"codified"- the right of the armed citizenry and dukedoms to rise up against an unjust government. Harder to do without weapons. Later, despot leaders, diluted that right to zero.

jimbo
02-11-2011, 09:45 AM
Remember that you are free to burn a flag and someone else is free to smack you upside the head if you do!~

Cookie
02-11-2011, 10:20 AM
The Kings, ah yes... they were pretty tough times for England & the Queens who lived. They had so much to say while they were trying to collect theirselves.

So far as burning the flag, I bet you never fought in a war?
The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

This should be rendered by standing at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart. When not in uniform men should remove any non-religious headdress with their right hand and hold it at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart. Persons in uniform should remain silent, face the flag, and render the military salute."

This is what my dad and I did. He fought for that flag and it is not only disrespectful to those who died for it, but, UNAMERICAN. So who burns your flag in your country?

So, still how do you compare those who died for their country to a picture of your prince and his sweetheart on a rubber packet?

Still, how can you relate rubbers to burning a flag? Not one word you said answered it, Ian.

Maybe, you guys could burn the rubbers. :)

INFACT, you should be glad they are making them, for it is increasing taxes which you so much love to pay.

LOTW
02-11-2011, 12:18 PM
Ian, as I see it America took the concept of freedom, which had stagnated in Britain, and brought it to a higher level. For example, compare American freedom of the press/libel standards with Britain's. And don't you agree that there can be no freedom without freedom from excessive taxation ?

Ian Gills
02-11-2011, 02:27 PM
On flags, I don't burn 'em. Too disrespectful. But I respect the rights of those that choose to.

On taxes, the rich get off too easy here. And the reason they get off easy is that you are all brainwashed into thinking that you too will be rich someday and so you don't want to face higher taxes when you get there. Who puts that silly message into your head? I'm still trying to work that out.

But I'm here to bring you all back down to earth. And to suggest that the rich should pay more. Else the poor will rob them.

Which brings us back to gun control.

Back to the flag, again, it shocks me the amount of Americans that fly it high, big and proud....

...but who forget to take it in when it rains, or light it at night...

And these same people would go mad with a little bit of flag burning. Yet they don't pay enough respect to their own.

Cookie
02-11-2011, 04:19 PM
Uncle Sam wants you! You need to experience things on its own level to understand. Join the military, it will make a man out of you, or in my case, a woman. Go buy a gun and go target shooting, or shoot game and take it home, and cook it.

Go to the VA, talk to the men and some women, not many, who fought in the big one, like my dad. Talk to them, ask them what it was like and ask them what they think of burning the flag that meant home to them. Ask to see their wounds.

Ask the younger generation, even younger than me, who like my neighbor, lost his eyesight and his hands to due a mine. Better yet, ask his parents what they think.

Have you been to places where our military had fought at, or is at the moment? If you haven't then before you make decisions that we are a country of lazy people who don't care, join up, strap the helmet to your head and put that gun in your hand, see what you would do, when someone, the enemy is shooting at you. You going to sacrifice your life? And, allow yourself to be shot.

Do a number crunch. Crunch those numbers you fling out compared to... the amount of people in our great nation. Then, crunch the numbers of other countries, smaller in size who walk about carrying rifles and shoot cilivilans and missionaries, and kids, and anything that moves. Or screams.

Ian, you mean well, maybe. But, unless, you are in certain positions you are in no position to judge.

Become a citizen, join up, join the military. Socialism will be the ruination of our country, it would not, and will not, better it.

And, this is what you are leaning toward in some of your statements. My dad and I fought for our country and while it is not perfect, it is the best you will find.

Ian Gills
02-11-2011, 05:44 PM
My father-in-law had an entire career in the navy. So I am well aware of the sacrifice many of our men and women (and substantially fewer of yours) made for our freedom.

That freedom, includes the right to burn the flag even if most of us find that very distasteful.

And the only war ever fought again socialism was that still fought today in the United States.

The war against Communism is what the rest of us remember.

The two are very different. But most Americans can't distinguish the two. Which is a shame.

They are still scared rotten of the Russians. Who taught you this stuff? Was it your parents?

Under socialism, a poor boy goes to school, gets healthcare and a handout if he loses his job.

Under communism we all get the same wage.

Don't mix the two up. Market socialism is actually very good. Despite what your parents said.

Cookie
02-11-2011, 06:03 PM
You are very confused Ian.

Ian Gills
02-11-2011, 06:12 PM
How is wanting a little bit of Government help for education, healthcare and social safety nets confused?

This is not the same thing as fixing everyone's wage, dividing everything up equal and all the other problems associated with Communist Russia.

Yet all you guys see is RED!

There is a middle way. And it is sweet America. Sweet.

So it is you that is confused Cookie. And all those that follow you.

Cookie
02-11-2011, 06:20 PM
Why do you attack us? When we freely allow you in our country to work and to live, and to share our culture and our society. Yet, all we hear are complaints. That is being a bad guest while we are being a good host.

You remind me of a parent who corrects a child, then, hands him a cookie. You correct our way of life, our beliefs, then, you say, how much you like us.

Keep your cookie. :)

We do not want more taxes, excessive taxes, we do not want more govn control, we do not want socialism; we are quite content, and given the size of our great nation, given the problems world-wide, we are doing pretty well. And, as time grows on, so will we, in our way. Not yours. No growth is to decay. And, we always grow...


To note: You must realize that you have a better chance of selling snowballs to Eskimos than me to Socialism.

LOTW
02-14-2011, 07:43 AM
Ian, I would be interested in knowing your definition of "rich." Also, America is a very generous country, but in my opinion we try to distinguish between deserving and undeserving. If you are attempting to work and improve yourself you will have help. If you are able-bodied and are not trying to advance yourself you will have much less sympathy and help. I do agree with you on the healthcare issue and favor expanded enrollment in a governmental plan which appears to me to be the only way to have enough clout to ratchet down out of control medical costs. Do we in America have the delusion of becoming "rich?" It depends what you mean by "rich." In my opinion no country in the world is a better place in which to acquire a home, raise a family, and establish basic financial security. But you need to be willing to work as it will not be handed to you. Nor should it be. Perhaps your decision to come and work and live in America is the best proof of that.

ballvalve
02-14-2011, 10:17 AM
Ian, looks like the USA lost a few more soldiers than the brits. And I believe you lost only .6% of the population. We lost .32% of total population.

Poland lost 16%, and I think it was 30% for Yugoslavia. Whats most odd is the small losses from Germany.

have a read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

As to your love of Japanese auto's, they beat the Germans with 20 MILLION victims dead of war crimes.

Pay back Detroit for not slaughtering the helpless.

Ian Gills
02-14-2011, 01:43 PM
Rich should be defined as anyone earning over US$250,000 per year.

And those earning over US$1 million should be targeted for extra taxes.


In my opinion no country in the world is a better place in which to acquire a home, raise a family, and establish basic financial security. But you need to be willing to work as it will not be handed to you. Nor should it be. Perhaps your decision to come and work and live in America is the best proof of that.

I agree....mostly. The problem with America is that it's not enough to be wanting to work. You need to have been privileged enough to be born into a family with means to have any chance.

Poor kids from poor families cannot acquire a good education so the cycle of povery continues. Taxpayer support to poor, bright kids should be available to put them through the system and even send them to Harvard. This would level the playing field and make this society great again.

It is all about equal opportunities and America is not there yet.

Most of what is done for the poor here depends on churches and charities and that is simply not enough. Why does a poor kid have to believe in God to get a scholarship to go to a good school? Or join the military?

Church should get out of the business of Government and it is your duty as taxpayers to ensure it does.

The Catholic church is the second largest provider or healthcare in this country. Looks fine on paper. Until you try to get an abortion.

Taxes should pick up the slack. And instead of providing the care the churches should pay taxes to the Government to provide it for them!

And Ballvalve. Your guys arrived way way late in the war. Less than 400,000 lost their lives (50 million died in Europe). And it was not an act of generosity on your part. Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with the war in Europe. You simply wanted to protect your freedom from the Japanese. Not ours from the Germans. It was the alliance between these that pulled you into our arena.

All we got from you was a couple of lousy ships that we paid too much for.

Thanks.

jnaas2
02-14-2011, 05:51 PM
Redwood
Maybe they all think they are big D&^KS

ballvalve
02-15-2011, 11:47 AM
And Ballvalve. Your guys arrived way way late in the war. Less than 400,000 lost their lives (50 million died in Europe). And it was not an act of generosity on your part. Pearl Harbor had nothing to do with the war in Europe. You simply wanted to protect your freedom from the Japanese. Not ours from the Germans. It was the alliance between these that pulled you into our arena.

All we got from you was a couple of lousy ships that we paid too much for.

Again, you never paid up. You may have missed that the Japs were allied to the Germans.

Hey Ian, where exactly was England and France when Germany invaded Poland? They were bound by their word and treaty to protect them. Blood on your hands by not keeping your word when it could have stopped the future slaughter of the 50 million. And why did the English not ABSOLUTELY disarm Germany after the first world war?

"Well, ol' chap, what do you make of the bloody huns killing off the Polish?" .... " Well, mate, its a bit far for us to travel, and the huns blood thirst might as well be sated on the Jews and slavs raaaather then we civilized blokes"..... "Aye matey, lets wait for those bloodthirsty savages from our old colony to come in take the bull by the horns" .... "And another Guiness barkeep"....

If it wasnt for our Detroit and Kenosha airplane engines, and our western phosphate mines, you would have been dropping lamb turds and coal on the Germans by kite.

Those items were shipped EARLY, by those ships you never paid up for.

Mom always wondered why 7 of her high school friends ended up in the tide of Omaha beach. I suppose so that the English could survive, come here and work and have the right to insult us.

We should have just taken on a few more German Jewish scientists, made the A-bomb earlier, and let Germany have England for a bit. That would have been a good lesson for you. Then we could have vaporized the Germans and had the pleasure of a surrender without leaving home for your stupid war.

Ian Gills
02-15-2011, 01:34 PM
Have you completely forgotten Pearl Harbor in your romantic version of the War?

You entered the war not to save our freedom but to protect your own.

Period.

LOTW
02-15-2011, 01:50 PM
Ian, no place has truly equal opportunity or equal treatment. But work and education is the best remedy for overcoming disadvantage, not governmental programs. For example, look at the current unemployment statistics for college graduates vs noncollege graduates. And college, especially community colleges, remains accessible. You are right that most Americans will never be "rich" as you define the term ($250k yearly income). But in many areas of this country you can be very comfortable by being one-third "rich" (as you define it) and I believe it far easier to improve your economic position to such a level in this country than elsewhere.

Cookie
02-15-2011, 03:07 PM
What you fail to understand is the simple fact, very simple fact, that if we didn't stop being bombed here, your country and others would had been next at some point. It would had spread faster than any cancer.
One after another. Until, it reached your hometown.

Period.


Have you completely forgotten Pearl Harbor in your romantic version of the War?

You entered the war not to save our freedom but to protect your own.

Period.

Ian Gills
02-15-2011, 03:08 PM
I'm not sure it is LOTW.

It is easy to get a Government-paid education elsewhere and come here to find well-paid work.

I'd hate to be born into a poor family here though and try to make my way up. Born poor stays poor in America.

Cookie. The Americans enter wars to protect their own interests. Not the interests of others. They never have.

And who can blame them.

Cookie
02-15-2011, 03:23 PM
This is where you are wrong. On both accounts. Education is available to the bone poor. There are state grants, pell grants, stanley power grants, low interest tuition, extended after graduation loans, etc. Really? There is no reason that money is the issue.

If you really want to save money, do a college fund when your kids are small, join UPROMISE, the best thing since indoor plumbing. 500 a year goes toward both my kids loans, to sallie mae and AES. Comes right off their loans monthly. And what did I need to do to get it? Buy keebler cookies... yes, cookies, lol, do a survey, answer what kind of TP i like to use, if I am going to buy a new car, yeah right, I tell them a Lexus.

My own dad wouldn't fill out the paperwork for me, no handouts, he considered anything like a grant, a handout. So, I did the usual thing. I worked. I paid my own way. I went all the way Ian.

Infact, my friend, if you are lower income you get more assistance.

Now, about the sneak attack, we kept you guys from getting sneaked attacked at a later date. You may not see it my way, but, that ball was going to keep rolling and rolling and rolling... I would rather fight cancer than communism.

Ian Gills
02-15-2011, 03:45 PM
Good points Cookie.

But I still think it is disgusting that people from poor backgrounds have to skimp and save to pay for their kids to go to college.

It's just dumb. Poor kids with a poor education don't grow up to be very good taxpayers. So it pays to invest in kids. And taxpayers should foot the bill.

We need to change the mindset here. You are entitled to handouts because you pay taxes. You are entitled to help because you have a vote.

Regarding the Cold War, we held our own. With nuclear weapons there was no protecting to be done, regardless of American involvement. Mutually Assured Destruction did the rest.

That's why these crazy countries with the bomb are such a worry.

Thank God we have Obama. He's better than Reagan. But perhaps not a Kennedy. Now that really was an American *star*. If only...

Cookie
02-15-2011, 05:36 PM
Dang! is this you Ian? lol. You got a twin... :) I know I got good points, but, I never thought I would hear you say it! I love it. See, all you men got to realize is that women are always right and then, it is a much better world. Ask my sons. By the way, I got these really great kids.

ballvalve
02-16-2011, 09:39 AM
Have you completely forgotten Pearl Harbor in your romantic version of the War?

You entered the war not to save our freedom but to protect your own.

Period.

Altruism is almost unknown in nature. Ann Ryand had it right. But the fact remains that the Brits and French broke their treaty to Poland, and could have stopped Hitler when it was fresh.

Why should we have jumped in and protected you pussy cats that sated Hitler? The English slurrped beers while Poland and Czechoslovakia burned.

Your Dunkirk should have come toward France and you all together should have had YOUR blitzkreig on Germany while he was building his death camps. The French and English slaughtered the Polish and the Jews by THEIR wait.

It was the English pause to fight that slaughtered those 50 million.

Of course I wonder where the hell we would put them all today if the war would not have happened.

Germanys attack on Poland was an attack on the UK. You did nothing.

When Americans are attacked, they take the fight ANYWHERE, then beg the chameleons of europe to send a few military police.

LOTW
02-16-2011, 12:20 PM
[QUOTE=Ian Gills;288341]I'm not sure it is LOTW.

It is easy to get a Government-paid education elsewhere and come here to find well-paid work.

Ian I appreciate your candor and ability to stir the pot. But where is your pride, man? As I understand your plan, it involves getting a government paid higher education in Great Britain, escaping the lack of opportunities and high taxes in GB by finding high paid work in the US, paying the relatively lower US taxes on your relatively high US income while not paying GB taxes,, and then at retirement moving back to GB to take advantage of GBs health system, etc when you have a lower income to be taxed. Am I missing something? Where is the honor in that arrangement? May I suggest that by having higher education in the US which is subsidized but which still requires sacrifice that we are instilling some sense of self-worth and pride? I mean no offense.

Ian Gills
02-16-2011, 04:21 PM
OK, OK. We were too slow Ballvalve.

But Americans are too fast. You shoot first and ask questions later. Your police are a case in point.

So was Iraq (no weapons found) and look at what that has caused.

A lot of anti-American sentiment in countries upon which you are very economically dependent. Not to mention the cost of those wars and the large number of badly trained, but brave and well-equipped young servicemen you have lost. And the well-trained British servicemen we have lost.

Another mess caused by Bush.

The way out is as follows. Obama needs to keep chilled and reach out to the Muslim world, especially Pakistan right now.

And we need to start taxing the heck out of gas. That would encourage the development of green energies, lead to fewer greenhouse gas emissions, create American jobs and reduce your dependence on some of the most shakey parts of the world that you created by being too quick to shoot. By the way, I think I just answered why there are so many Americans here, when so few came over on the boat - too quick to shoot again, no doubt. :)

You just need to pay a little bit more at the pump to fuel the car or van that you own which is too big anyway.

LOTW, I like your posts. They are very clear. And I think you are on to something. I have followed some incentives with my choices. But honor has no part in it. And I am very surprised to hear an American refer to it. There is very little honor in America. It is all about capitalism. Sink or swim. Dog eat dog. An America with honor would leave no child behind. It would leave no person ill from not being able to afford healthcare. It would house the homeless. And provide generous benefits to the long-term unemployed. Honor lies in looking after those less fortunate than yourselves. And charity should start at home. I do not see that here. Yet...

But honor can be restored with a little bit more tax and a lot more entitlements.

Cookie
02-16-2011, 06:43 PM
The only thing that still surprises me about people is the lack of compassion and heart, you never know when it could be you. I always ask myself this question, " how I would feel if it were me?" Get it?

Ian Gills
02-16-2011, 06:50 PM
It's difficult to do that Cookie. The longer I live, the more I realize that we all face challenges at some time in our lives. Yours might be now or already happened. I've had mine and there are certainly more to come.

So to dwell on other's sorrow is not the answer. We must enjoy the peace we each have until the next trouble in our own lives strikes us.

The Government, however, is the answer. This is the institution that must step in when life hits each of us with an unexpected blow.

But in America, the Government sits idly by while the poor fall sick and the bright kids, who lost their father, can't afford to go to school.

It is not the responsibility of the individual to look after themselves. Nor that of their neighbor. Nor that of the church or charity. But the responsibility of society and the taxpayer.

Big Government is Best.

Cookie
02-16-2011, 07:00 PM
That's bullshit.

You can say supportive words, it doesn't raise taxes either.

Cut the spending and lower the taxes, redo the tax schedule, there you go, Ian. That is a perfect solution.

and, hey when something good happens for someone, say, " good for you!"

Free, that is free. To care is free, no matter your challenges in life. I care, maybe, someday I won't, and be just like the majority of the people here.

Ian Gills
02-17-2011, 07:20 AM
Paying lip service is the real BS Cookie.

If you really care, you must put your money where your mouth is.

That can mean charity, church or (as I prefer) taxes.

Why are people in this country so opposed to putting their hand in their pocket to help others through the Government system?

I don't want to hear Americans say they are sorry for the poor and the sick. I want to see them doing something about it.

Cookie
02-17-2011, 07:35 AM
You have no idea what I have done with my life and the good I have done for others. I just don't need others to pat me on my back. Why is it what you consider the working (poor) middleclass you see as not happy people; yet, the seemingly, what you can call rich, are really miserable and full of complaints.

Again, your socialism sucks. Our country provides so much opportunity for all, that you and others flock to the USA to grab at it.

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God." (Matthew 19:24)

LOTW
02-17-2011, 08:51 AM
Quote "But honor can be restored with a little bit more tax and a lot more entitlements.[/QUOTE]

The problem Ian, is that you are more American than most Americans and won't admit it. Americans grumble greatly about their taxes, try to get them reduced to as little as possible, and then pay them, complaining all the while.

Your solution is to reduce your taxes to our level and then hold up Great Britain's entitlement system (which you refuse to pay for) as an example for us to follow. The concept of honor comes into play because some people find hypocrisy in your solution.

Perhaps the reason the Queen always looks so grumpy is because her subjects are taking advantage of her.

LOTW
02-17-2011, 08:53 AM
Quote "But honor can be restored with a little bit more tax and a lot more entitlements.

The problem Ian, is that you are more American than most Americans and won't admit it. Americans grumble greatly about their taxes, try to get them reduced to as little as possible, and then pay them, complaining all the while.

Your solution is to reduce your taxes to our level and then hold up Great Britain's entitlement system (which you refuse to pay for) as an example for us to follow. The concept of honor comes into play because some people find hypocrisy in your solution.

Perhaps the reason the Queen always looks so grumpy is because her subjects are taking advantage of her.[/QUOTE]

ballvalve
02-17-2011, 11:21 AM
"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination are omnipotent. The slogan press on has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race. No person was ever honored for what he received. Honor has been the reward for what he gave."

Quite a few Americans have been gifted with the understanding of honor. I would say the District of Columbia would rather qualify as generally bereft of the concept.

Redwood
02-17-2011, 02:02 PM
The problem Ian, is that you are more American than most Americans and won't admit it. Americans grumble greatly about their taxes, try to get them reduced to as little as possible, and then pay them, complaining all the while.

Your solution is to reduce your taxes to our level and then hold up Great Britain's entitlement system (which you refuse to pay for) as an example for us to follow. The concept of honor comes into play because some people find hypocrisy in your solution.

Perhaps the reason the Queen always looks so grumpy is because her subjects are taking advantage of her.

Ouch! That's painful! But.... You hit the nail on the head!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Redwood39/7378b494.jpg

Ian Gills
02-17-2011, 03:50 PM
Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence.

Just like the public workers in Wisconsin protesting for their right to collectively bargain.

I'm impressed. I didn't think Americans had it in them.

Honor restored!


The problem Ian, is that you are more American than most Americans and won't admit it. Nope. I still struggle with the idea of an independent Republic here. Are you really sure this is not still a British colony?


Your solution is to reduce your taxes to our level and then hold up Great Britain's entitlement system (which you refuse to pay for) as an example for us to follow. Nope. The rich pay more in taxes. No Bush tax cuts for them. And guess what happens when the rich do pay more in tax? Nothing much. Rich Americans aren't going to move if you make them pay a little more here either. They'll just save less. Which doesn't do anyone any harm. But more fools for you for listening to their BS.

Cookie
02-17-2011, 04:23 PM
London tops world cities spending league: study

Looks like you guys got the money to spend, you people must be rich.

LONDON (Reuters) - London beat Tokyo, New York and Paris to be the highest grossing city for retail sales in 2010, according to a study of 22 major worldwide shopping destinations by Britain's Center for Retail Research.

The study, commissioned by online shopping comparison website Kelkoo, found London generated 64.2 billion pounds ($103 billion) of non-food retail sales last year.

"The key to London's success appears to be the quality and quantity of shops on offer, combined with the revenue generated by the huge volume of tourists that passes through," said Kelkoo marketing director Chris Simpson.

London's 26,000 stores house 138 of the world's 250 leading retail brands, compared with an average of 90 across the cities surveyed. It attracts around 14.1 million overseas tourists, some 4 million more than its nearest rival.

London was also the top city for internet shopping, with 9.9 billion pounds of sales last year.

Tokyo was a close second in the overall standings, with total non-food retail sales of 61.4 billion pounds, ahead of New York on 47 billion and Paris on 46.6 billion.

Ian Gills
02-17-2011, 04:32 PM
Just goes to show.

Just because you pay a little bit more in taxes, don't mean you can't live a better life.

All those well-educated kids with access to universal health care get good jobs you see.

And that means shopping.

Give a little more. Get a little more.

America would be good to remember that.

Cookie
02-17-2011, 05:07 PM
Hey, I may look stupid but I aint... yeah, they get good paying jobs here, in the USA and, then, spend the money back there! Try again Ian.

Ian Gills
02-17-2011, 07:06 PM
The sad reality of America is that a lot of people here do not get good wages.

In England, no-one needs to work two jobs.

LOTW
02-18-2011, 09:14 AM
Ouch! That's painful! But.... You hit the nail on the head!

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Redwood39/7378b494.jpg

And don't forget to add that Cookie rocks.

ballvalve
02-18-2011, 11:09 AM
The "public servants" in Wisconsin can always be found parked behind a coffee shop for their 3 and 4 hours lunches.

My brother the city pipes inspector puts on about 3 actual hours of work each day. Free health care too.

I have to own a million dollars of equipment, draw until midnight, and suffer a billion bites of stress each week. 1300 bucks a month for health care of virtually no value.

$5000 deductible.

Fire all the Wisconsin public parasites and put in some that need to work.