chrisf8657
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THIS IS FOR A DIFFERNET CADET 3 MODEL FROM ANOTHER REVIEW ON THIS FORUM.
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to give my review of a new Cadet 3 EL Flowise model Toilet.
We bought a Cadet 3 EL Flowise Toilet, 12" rough from Lowe's last month. Fourtanently, we have none of the issues that many others had with improper toilet level, etc.
Our toilet was installed in our downstairs bathroom (2-Story house built in 1982). Our previous toilet was a Kilgore 1982-model - decent toilet and we had no intention to replace, except the porcelain around the flush handle broke due to lime buildup when trying to untighten the handle for replacement.
We originally wanted a Champion 4 or a Toto, but due to a overhang marble (pic attached), we were EXTREMELY limited in our options. The regular Cadet 3 1.6g would not fit in height (due to the overhang marble counter). Length/width was not an issue.
The Cadet 3 is higher than the Kilgore by about 1.5 in, making it more comfortable to sit on.
The Installation was done by a Lowe's contractor, and every aspect was watched. The original Wax ring (27+ years old) was still in good condition. Due to the floor being linoleum-tiled, the toilet was both longer in the back, and shorter in the front, than the previous Kilgore, therefore a Double Wax ring had to be utilized until the linoleum is removed sometime in the future because the toilet is NOT seated properly on the concrete slab. due to the linoleum.
I'm sure you all know what I mean.
The Contractor tested the toilet several times to test for leaks, none found. Install done in less than an hour.
Here's the part you are all probably looking for: LOAD TEST!
(WARNING: I AM GOING TO BE VERY FRANK IN THIS SECTION)
This toilet is rated at 1000+ grams...well, some of us, including kids, can load what seems like 2000+ grams easily ;-)
I am on medications for pain, and they cause hard, sometimes LARGE, logs.
Everything I have thrown at this toilet it has FAILED TO CLOG, including 6 inch long solid logs 3/4 the diameter of the outlet. It goes down everytime IF the handle is held down until the tank is empty. I have not tried it without holding the handle down, although I'm sure there would be little difference.
When having Diahrea or loose stool, or a combination of the above & this, however, the bowl usually fails to empty all diahrea contents by very little - only 1-3 very tiny fragments may remain, nothing that can't ben flushed next time - more than likely due to little water usage.
So far, I give this Toilet a 10+.
One thing of note is that our house as built in 1982, and compared to recent homes over the last 12 years, the flange and sewer pipe is HUGE, at LEAST 3.5 inches or more, so it has no problem taking whatever comes from the toilet. I have seen videos on Youtube of a house that has a toilet pipe that appears no larger than a large water pipe (http://www.ehow.com/video_2329608_install-toilet-wax-ring.html) - hardly enough to take down constipation-size fecal matter (I can't believe they are using this size pipe BTW!)
I could clog our Kilgore with what I have thrown at this (the Kilgores are still VERY good toilets - they are 3.5g Flushers), but they have very tight bends like the Mansfield toilets. I must say this new American Standard has EXCEEDED my expectations for Flushability - Quality Control appears OK, nothing exquisite like Toto.
I give it a 10 rating.
Any personal questions feel free to email me at chrisf8657@hotmail.com
Chris
THIS IS FOR A DIFFERNET CADET 3 MODEL FROM ANOTHER REVIEW ON THIS FORUM.
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to give my review of a new Cadet 3 EL Flowise model Toilet.
We bought a Cadet 3 EL Flowise Toilet, 12" rough from Lowe's last month. Fourtanently, we have none of the issues that many others had with improper toilet level, etc.
Our toilet was installed in our downstairs bathroom (2-Story house built in 1982). Our previous toilet was a Kilgore 1982-model - decent toilet and we had no intention to replace, except the porcelain around the flush handle broke due to lime buildup when trying to untighten the handle for replacement.
We originally wanted a Champion 4 or a Toto, but due to a overhang marble (pic attached), we were EXTREMELY limited in our options. The regular Cadet 3 1.6g would not fit in height (due to the overhang marble counter). Length/width was not an issue.
The Cadet 3 is higher than the Kilgore by about 1.5 in, making it more comfortable to sit on.
The Installation was done by a Lowe's contractor, and every aspect was watched. The original Wax ring (27+ years old) was still in good condition. Due to the floor being linoleum-tiled, the toilet was both longer in the back, and shorter in the front, than the previous Kilgore, therefore a Double Wax ring had to be utilized until the linoleum is removed sometime in the future because the toilet is NOT seated properly on the concrete slab. due to the linoleum.
I'm sure you all know what I mean.
The Contractor tested the toilet several times to test for leaks, none found. Install done in less than an hour.
Here's the part you are all probably looking for: LOAD TEST!
(WARNING: I AM GOING TO BE VERY FRANK IN THIS SECTION)
This toilet is rated at 1000+ grams...well, some of us, including kids, can load what seems like 2000+ grams easily ;-)
I am on medications for pain, and they cause hard, sometimes LARGE, logs.
Everything I have thrown at this toilet it has FAILED TO CLOG, including 6 inch long solid logs 3/4 the diameter of the outlet. It goes down everytime IF the handle is held down until the tank is empty. I have not tried it without holding the handle down, although I'm sure there would be little difference.
When having Diahrea or loose stool, or a combination of the above & this, however, the bowl usually fails to empty all diahrea contents by very little - only 1-3 very tiny fragments may remain, nothing that can't ben flushed next time - more than likely due to little water usage.
So far, I give this Toilet a 10+.
One thing of note is that our house as built in 1982, and compared to recent homes over the last 12 years, the flange and sewer pipe is HUGE, at LEAST 3.5 inches or more, so it has no problem taking whatever comes from the toilet. I have seen videos on Youtube of a house that has a toilet pipe that appears no larger than a large water pipe (http://www.ehow.com/video_2329608_install-toilet-wax-ring.html) - hardly enough to take down constipation-size fecal matter (I can't believe they are using this size pipe BTW!)
I could clog our Kilgore with what I have thrown at this (the Kilgores are still VERY good toilets - they are 3.5g Flushers), but they have very tight bends like the Mansfield toilets. I must say this new American Standard has EXCEEDED my expectations for Flushability - Quality Control appears OK, nothing exquisite like Toto.
I give it a 10 rating.
Any personal questions feel free to email me at chrisf8657@hotmail.com
Chris
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