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Ian Gills
09-17-2009, 05:04 PM
In England our wisdom teeth are not pulled until they need to be.

In America, not so. Dentists just love to get 'em out!!

Rather than do it the normal way, I decided to have one tooth pulled every year or so. I'm now down to my last one.

Wish me luck tomorrow.

Some of you may have noticed that my posts are not as "wise" as they used to be. Now you know why.

master plumber mark
09-17-2009, 06:02 PM
nothing I would rather do than sit around all
weekend with a bottle of whiskey and a sore tooth..

good luuck with that

Scuba_Dave
09-17-2009, 06:29 PM
Heck if you like torture that much c'mon over I have a good set of plyers

FloridaOrange
09-17-2009, 07:16 PM
Wuss, you should've gotten them all yanked at the same time. Day or two an it's over, and doesn't mess up other teeth and don't have to worry about it for several years in a row.

I take it you have seen teeth of your countrymen's smile.....
http://rlv.zcache.com/im_just_sayin_t_shirt-p235022254721868145trlf_400.jpg

Cookie
09-17-2009, 08:08 PM
In England our wisdom teeth are not pulled until they need to be.

In America, not so. Dentists just love to get 'em out!!

Rather than do it the normal way, I decided to have one tooth pulled every year or so. I'm now down to my last one.

Wish me luck tomorrow.

Some of you may have noticed that my posts are not as "wise" as they used to be. Now you know why.

Wishing you luck, I know you will be fine.

But the reason it is adviseable to remove the wisdom teeth earlier in life is because of the nerves that can grow around the root as one grows older, and cause damage when removed when you are older.

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 03:56 AM
4 hours to go. I have the painkillers ready.

This is gonna hurt. The ones on the top are fine because nothing falls in when they are out.

But the ones on the bottom (where this last one is) are less pleasant. It took me more than one week to recover last time.

British teeth are so bad because the public option does not cover dental and there are very few insurance options available. So you pay full private cost.

Here my insurance covers $3000 worth of work every year, and covers 80% (I pay 20%).

During my first year in the US I ate through every penny of that $3000 on crowns and bridges.

Just imagine...

I like spending my health insurance because it pushes up your premiums. Thanks.

What do the 47 million (equivalent to the entire population of England) uninsured Americans do for dental?

FloridaOrange
09-18-2009, 04:39 AM
They either have the cash to fix things or they end up looking like this.
http://www.ricochet.co.uk/images/big/teeth.JPG

By the way, googling "bad teeth" (images) brings up waaaayyyy worse than this. Almost enough to turn my stomach in the morning.

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 04:47 AM
I was hoping to do some electrical stuff on the house over the weekend but after this, and given what Mark said, I may not be in a fit state to do any real work.

I'll just have to do some plumbing instead.

Cass
09-18-2009, 04:48 AM
Here you go if you would like to watch the procedure...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY459kTn32c

FloridaOrange
09-18-2009, 04:50 AM
Definitely less dangerous if you're hopped up on drugs. Unless you're doing copper.


When I had my teeth yanked I would make a shake, carnation instant breakfast and throw all my pills in. Got the benifit of putting some calories in without eating and definitely made me feel good in about 20 minutes.

Cookie
09-18-2009, 05:17 AM
4 hours to go. I have the painkillers ready.

This is gonna hurt. The ones on the top are fine because nothing falls in when they are out.

But the ones on the bottom (where this last one is) are less pleasant. It took me more than one week to recover last time.

British teeth are so bad because the public option does not cover dental and there are very few insurance options available. So you pay full private cost.

Here my insurance covers $3000 worth of work every year, and covers 80% (I pay 20%).

During my first year in the US I ate through every penny of that $3000 on crowns and bridges.

Just imagine...

I like spending my health insurance because it pushes up your premiums. Thanks.

What do the 47 million (equivalent to the entire population of England) uninsured Americans do for dental?


They go without dental insurance, and so many times without dental care, or make payments. That is why preventative maintance is very important to most. Get your teeth cleaned, brush, floss and pray. :)

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 05:18 AM
Thanks Cass but I am not having that done. My wife nearly had to because some of hers were well below the gum line.

Mine are all above, so it's more of the pliers and less of the knife.

Perhaps this is a good time to ask whether this might be something a DIY could try?

Do these things come out like my windows did: an F150 and a bit of rope?

Cookie
09-18-2009, 05:25 AM
I LOVE your images!

Did you know this? And here I thought it was my profession. :)

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2301/do-dentists-have-the-highest-suicide-rate

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 11:24 AM
Well I am back and spitting blood. There was a small complication in that the tooth had bonded itself to some bone on the tongue side of my mouth so they had to snap that out with it.

My tongue may be left numb, which will require some more surgery.

Let's just see when the jabs wear off.

FloridaOrange
09-18-2009, 01:11 PM
Well I am back and spitting blood. There was a small complication in that the tooth had bonded itself to some bone on the tongue side of my mouth so they had to snap that out with it.

My tongue may be left numb, which will require some more surgery.

Let's just see when the jabs wear off.

At least part of it's over for now.
When I had mine yanked, the bottom two were impacted and required breaking and then removal. My dentist told me he could take them out. I asked if he could knock me out, he answered "no". I went to an oral surgeon, got knocked out and then had it done.

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 02:16 PM
Knocked out? You wimp.

I actually said ouch when mine went crack.

I like to be there to supervise. I watch over my plumbers and electricians too.

Just to make sure the job is done right.

It's starting to really hurt now. Just like last time.

I'll crack open a bottle of wine in a few hours. Should help the pain...well when I mix it all up with the painkillers anyway.

Thank God that's all over. It took three years to pull all four.

I would like to get back on the happy gas though. I have not seen that since I was a kid. I think it's banned now in England but I keep seeing bottles of the stuff in the dentists surgery over here. I'll ask next time.

Happy gas is so...happy.

master plumber mark
09-18-2009, 03:26 PM
screw the wine,,,,

gentelman jack, that is what you need...

handymom
09-18-2009, 03:30 PM
Wuss, you should've gotten them all yanked at the same time. Day or two an it's over, and doesn't mess up other teeth and don't have to worry about it for several years in a row.

I take it you have seen teeth of your countrymen's smile.....
http://rlv.zcache.com/im_just_sayin_t_shirt-p235022254721868145trlf_400.jpg

Is it the pain of the pull or of the bill that is the reason for the delayed approach?

Scuba_Dave
09-18-2009, 03:37 PM
Tylenol w/codeine is what they gave me
Lights out for about 4-5 hours :cool:

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 03:45 PM
So many questions and things to respond to I have had to open a new bloody window.

But at least I can type, my speech is currently impaired i.e. I sound like an American.:)

I will start on the wine Mark but then mix it up a little. After the red, I'll move on to Miller Genuine Draft (America's Best Beer) and perhaps then the Daniels and the Bean.

The delayed approach was used largely for fear of the pull and to minimize disruption at work. The bill I have not paid yet since the receptionist was not there on my exit so I made a quick escape. You call it stealing...I call it the "Public Option".

Tylenol with codeine sounds nice. I currently have 800mg ibuprofen which I am currently on and then some Hydrocodone for later.

All of this and I could still solder a joint.

The extraction site is a real mess. I can see white bone, blood clots and stitches.

Ian Gills
09-18-2009, 04:14 PM
I have just had my first glass of red and can feel the area starting to rapidly heal.

But there are so many people out there just like me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbPNXCjGch0&feature=related

All half my age.

Why do you Americans do this to your kids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b877XoYNO_o&feature=channel

master plumber mark
09-18-2009, 07:19 PM
hows those pain medications doing???

kicking in yet???

Ian Gills
09-19-2009, 06:01 AM
I slept well last night. The meds and the booze knocked me out.

I have a little headache now. I don't feel clear enough to do my day job but definitely well enough to do some plumbing or electrical.

Cass
09-19-2009, 06:07 AM
Hmmmm...all you need to be is licenced and you would be a duplicate of the guys I follow around and fix all their work...:D

Ian Gills
09-19-2009, 06:48 AM
Come on Cass. You guys are always understating my credentials. Unlike many people on this Board I am fully unlicensed to plumb in each and every State, and that includes Puerto Rico and Hawaii too. In fact I can proudly say, and after a great deal of studying, I cannot legally do any remodeling work for anybody other than myself in any country.

In most areas homeowners are allowed to do electrical and plumbing work within their own residences, however the particulars vary from locale to locale. In some locations it can be as simple as obtaining a permit, while others may limit the scope of work that can be performed or even require aptitude testing before a permit can be issued.

Ultimately it is the sole responsibility of the homeowner to learn about and comply with all ordinances relating to DIY work and permits. Some good sources of information would include the local building department, electrical and plumbing inspectors, and, in some cases, the local power/water company's customer service department.


However, obtaining a permit does not automatically make someone qualified to do the work. The National Electrical Code, for example, defines a "qualified person" as one who has skills and knowledge related to the construction and operation of the electrical equipment and installations and has received safety training on the hazards involved. Jurisdictions are free to use this definition or any other and it is the responsibility of the person doing the work to learn and comply with any requirements in their local jurisdiction.

Using this Forum alone is not enough to make someone qualified to perform remodeling work, however it can be used by novices and beginners as a first step in gaining a better understanding of how household plumbing and electrical systems work. For those with more experience (like Cass), it is a great tool for furthering their knowledge but still is no substitute for real world training and experience. Performing DIY work around the house is a satisfying and rewarding experience but one should always be aware of their limitations and call in a professional licensed contractor if the scope of work exceeds their abilities, and then call in Cass when the forementioned professional licensed contractor messed up and didn't do it right the first time.

Cookie
09-19-2009, 06:52 AM
Come on Cass. You guys are always understating my credentials. Unlike many people on this Board I am fully unlicensed to plumb in each and every State, and that includes Puerto Rico and Hawaii too. In fact I can proudly say, and after a great deal of studying, I cannot legally do any remodeling work for anybody other than myself in any country.

and, sadly even in Massachusetts you can't even for yourself! Some other states might be the same way, too.

Glad you are feeling up to snuff this morning. :)

Ian Gills
09-19-2009, 06:57 AM
Thanks Cookie. I am going to go grocery shopping today. The weather is quite lovely today.

Nate R
09-19-2009, 12:22 PM
Glad I had mine done when I did. They're outta there. I had a similar problem that required jawbone to be ground away. I was in a lot of pain. 6 more crowns to go and I'm done with the major work.

BTW: My insurance covers 50% of major work, and $1500/yr per person. I've been getting 2 crowns a year and paying the out of pocket costs with FSA contributions, so tax free.


I have just had my first glass of red and can feel the area starting to rapidly heal.

But there are so many people out there just like me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbPNXCjGch0&feature=related

All half my age.

Why do you Americans do this to your kids?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b877XoYNO_o&feature=channel

Redwood
09-20-2009, 09:38 AM
I found eating rice after wisdom tooth extraction is a fun thing... :D

master plumber mark
09-20-2009, 11:19 AM
I found eating rice after wisdom tooth extraction is a fun thing... :D

That would sting a tad bit....

Ian Gills
09-20-2009, 04:54 PM
It still hurts but is getting better. I am probably on for another week of pain.

Redwood
09-20-2009, 05:25 PM
That would sting a tad bit....

Not really but it does get caught in the hole pretty bad. lol

Cookie
09-20-2009, 06:34 PM
Imagine Red, if the skin grew over a piece of it, YIKES. :)

Redwood
09-21-2009, 09:24 PM
I don't know what this guy is whining about...
I got my wisdom teeth pulled and I was back to work a half hour later...

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Redwood39/Dontbea.jpg

Ian Gills
09-22-2009, 06:30 AM
I bet you didn't.

More like the Union gave you the rest of the week off, paid.

Unions are great. They give workers a stronger voice so that they can get a fair share of the economic growth they help create.

Cookie
09-22-2009, 07:28 AM
I wouldn't go there.

Redwood
09-22-2009, 09:15 AM
I bet you didn't.

More like the Union gave you the rest of the week off, paid.

Unions are great. They give workers a stronger voice so that they can get a fair share of the economic growth they help create.

No Ian...
Here in America we have a strong work/play ethic...
I prefer to work when I don't feel good as it keeps my mind off the pain...
Then one nice day when I feel great, take a sick day cause I'm sick of work...
It's the American Way!:D

Ian Gills
09-22-2009, 09:31 AM
And the American dream is having your wisdom teeth out.

I came here looking for it, and that's what I got.

Credit unions are great because they usually have your interests in mind, not just profiting for themselves.

Cookie
09-22-2009, 12:44 PM
I love our credit union. Ian, my auto insurance is also, lowered belonging to them. YES!

Ian Gills
09-22-2009, 12:50 PM
Unions are used to connect two lengths of small diameter pipe, and are available in threaded or socket weld. The design of a union allows threaded pipe connections to occur without turning the pipe, as the nuts of the union turn to make the connection.

Cookie
09-22-2009, 01:06 PM
NOUN:


The act of uniting or the state of being united.
A combination so formed, especially an alliance or confederation of people, parties, or political entities for mutual interest or benefit.
Mathematics A set, every member of which is an element of one or another of two or more given sets.
Agreement or harmony resulting from the uniting of individuals; concord.

The state of matrimony; marriage: "The element that was to make possible such a union was trust in each other's love" (Kate Chopin).
****** intercourse.

A combination of parishes for joint administration of relief for the poor in Great Britain.
A workhouse maintained by such a union.
A labor union.
A coupling device for connecting parts, such as pipes or rods.
A device on a flag or ensign, occupying the upper inner corner or the entire field, that signifies the union of two or more sovereignties.
often Union
An organization at a college or university that provides facilities for recreation; a student union.
A building housing such facilities.
Union The United States of America regarded as a national unit, especially during the Civil War.

DANG!

Ian Gills
09-22-2009, 01:47 PM
A union is simply an employee organization—protected by law—where a group of workers joins together to improve and guarantee their wages, benefits and working conditions. A union also gives employees a way to achieve respect and fairness on the job and a stronger voice to impact employer decisions. Without a union, employers have 100% control.

By joining together you will have far more power to make positive changes and gain protections in your workplace than you would alone or with a just a few co-workers.

FloridaOrange
09-22-2009, 05:07 PM
A union is simply an employee organization—protected by law—where a group of workers joins together to improve and guarantee their wages, benefits and working conditions. A union also gives employees a way to achieve respect and fairness on the job and a stronger voice to impact employer decisions. Without a union, employers have 100% control.

By joining together you will have far more power to make positive changes and gain protections in your workplace than you would alone or with a just a few co-workers.

Or the union gets too powerful and ends up running the company down (or helping to).
I'm all for construction, police and postal unions.
Construction for the structured educational system, although some areas have bad habits.
Police (Firemen and EMT) due to their unique requirements.
Postal...well, mom is a member.
But to use an oft mentioned group - UAW, some unions have outgrown their usefulness.

Scuba_Dave
09-22-2009, 05:25 PM
I used to always go to work when I was sick
Why be miserable at home
I'd rather take well days

Cookie
09-22-2009, 06:31 PM
Teachers especially loves it when parents send their kids to school sick. Oh, yeah...
:)

Cookie
09-29-2009, 10:04 AM
Ian are you eating peanut brittle yet? :)

Ian Gills
09-29-2009, 10:56 AM
There's still a little pain but my diet has mostly returned to normal.

Peanut9199
09-29-2009, 01:36 PM
Ya you look a little sad in your picture.

Ian Gills
09-29-2009, 02:01 PM
Let's just say the whole experience was easily worse that childbirth.

Peanut9199
09-30-2009, 05:03 AM
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Q: My wife is five months pregnant and so moody that sometimes she's borderline irrational.
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Q: When is the best time to get an epidural?
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Q : Is there any reason I have to be in the delivery room while my wife is in labour?
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Q : Our baby was born last week. When will my wife begin to feel and act normal again?
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