Toto Carrollton Flush and Fill Questions

Hi,

I just installed my new Carrollton toilet (love the look) and wanted to run a few things by those in the know here.

Flushing -- The flapper appears well-adjusted based upon the length of the chain, but a simple flip of the flush lever doesn't cause the entire (or most of the) water in the tank to exit. If you hold the lever down, of course, you can get a "full tank flush." Is this by design?

Filling -- How long should the GMax fill valve take to fill the tank? Mine arrived clogged with debris. I know because I flushed my water line before connecting. Disassembling and cleaning seems to have rectified the problem (i.e. it now fills) but it seems somewhat slow. 16 seconds to refill from a quick flush; 40 seconds or so to fill the empty tank.

Thanks,

Ronny K.

RonnyK said:

Flushing -- The flapper appears well-adjusted based upon the length of the chain, but a simple flip of the flush lever doesn't cause the entire (or most of the) water in the tank to exit. If you hold the lever down, of course, you can get a "full tank flush." Is this by design?

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Yes this is by design. The amount of water that leaves the tank is the amount the toilet is designed to flush with. You will find that it flushes very well with that amount.

RonnyK said:

-- How long should the GMax fill valve take to fill the tank? Mine arrived clogged with debris. I know because I flushed my water line before connecting. Disassembling and cleaning seems to have rectified the problem (i.e. it now fills) but it seems somewhat slow. 16 seconds to refill from a quick flush; 40 seconds or so to fill the empty tank.

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The fill valve is not shipped with debris by Toto I assure you...
The debris is coming from your supply system...
I suspect that your agle stop valve may be failing and is supplying the debris.
15 seconds may be about right depending on your supplied water pressure.

RonnyK said:

Hi,

a simple flip of the flush lever doesn't cause the entire (or most of the) water in the tank to exit.
This has been true for many many years ( 1990) . A tank which only held 1.6 gallons would be the size of a gallon of milk, plus 2 qts. Tiny. The low gallon is achieved by NOT flushing all the water.

If you hold the lever down, of course, you can get a "full tank flush."
This of course is against the law, and could get you a vist from algore.

Ronny K.

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Welcome to the world. Do you have your new no-lead faucets yet?

Thanks for the replies (the sarcasm, not so much). I live in a 1920's home (and have since 1993) and have never bought a new toilet. I also guess I never used a toilet with a 3" flush valve, which explains why the water exits so quickly.

Old toilets worked with high volume...new ones high velocity. The better ones actually work better with less water. Depending on the model, the issue sometimes is the quality of the bowl wash, since there's no anywhere near as much water flowing over the sides of the bowl.

In a 1920's home, you might have old galvanized pipe.
Anytime I shut down an old home like that, it can loosen up crud from the pipes.
Copper or PEX is better for that.

Or it could be the supply line, the Watts Floodsafe will shut itself off with some toilets.

Like mentioned above, only a little water will be needed from the tank, but it would look kind of silly to have a tank that small.
The Carrollton tank has a nice lid that will fit things, almost like a second vanity.