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Terry
07-02-2009, 08:50 AM
Bird Feed Comparison, Target and Costco

I'm trying two bird seeds.

Costco in huge box
Mills Bros. Premium Wild Bird Mix
High End Mix




Mills Bros. Premium Mix has a high percentage of black oil sunflower in a combination with white and red millet, safflower and thistle seed.

No Filler/No Waste
Great for all types of feeders
Available in 5-lb, 10-lb, 20-lb, and 40-lb bags
http://www.terrylove.com/images/costco_birdfeed.jpg
This is good food. It will last forever.
Put this stuff in a bird feeder and you never have to refill it.
I bought it at Costco in a huge box that I could barely lift.
It should be good for ten years at the rate the birds are not eating it.
It does look nice though.
http://www.ghfoods.com/wild_mixes.htm#premium


KAYTEE Birder's Blend
Formulated by bird enthusiasts, this mix contains a superior blend of specialty seeds, grains, and nuts. This blend attracts a wide variety of songbirds to your yard year round.
Ingredients:

Sunflower, Millet, Cracked Corn, Milo, Peanuts, Hulled Sunflower, Safflower, Wheat, Calcium Carbonate, Artificial Cherry Flavor.

http://www.terrylove.com/images/kaytee_birdfeed.jpg

The birds eat this way too fast. Do they think I'm made of money?
Where are there manners?
I have to refill my feeder every day.
It seems to attact the whole neighborhood.
Sometimes four birds will be on the feeder at a time, and four more waiting on the fir to swoop down and eat.
Didn't their mother teach them to be more polite?
Don't buy this is you want to save money on bird feed.
http://www.kaytee.com/products/kaytee-birders-blend.php

chris8796
07-02-2009, 10:18 AM
I've had the best luck with buying bags of individual seed types, rather than mixes. I get most stuff at our local wild birds unlimited (http://www.wbu.com/). We also get too many undesireables if put out something with cracked corn or millet in it. By combining specific seeds with different feeder types you have much better control of the type of birds you attract.

Cookie
07-02-2009, 12:22 PM
Terry,

The reason the first one lasts so long is the birds will only eat it at last resort, that is why it seems like the other stuff attracts so many that like what is in it. The millet is used as a filler many times.

I also feed birds and in the winter I go thru about 80 pounds of feed a month.

Right now I am feeding finches with thistle seed. I also, feed woodpeckers and other birds, with suet.

I make my own Gourmet Birdie Suet. It is a hit.

Cookie
07-03-2009, 07:53 PM
I have a friend who does not like Starlings, he claims they don't let the other birds eat, does anyone else have this problem ? I have don't have that problem, I have polite birds. :)

Check this out, nice site for birds pictures to help identify.
http://www.symbolicmessengers.com/Other_new_Birds.htm[/URL]

What do you feed Terry? Do you have these?

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chris8796
07-04-2009, 10:15 AM
Most cavity-nester bird groups (blue bird, purple martins, tree swallows) recommend the killing of Starlings. Starlings will often destroy eggs or kill nestlings of native cavity nesters. House sparrows are another non native that causes alot of problems for native cavity nesters. Both are invasive species and are routinely trapped and killed by native bird supporters. I realized I had a problem with them when I watched a Starling pull a House sparrow out of a Blue bird box I put up. I actively try to control both species when I have time. From the Purple Martin Society (http://purplemartin.org/forumarchives/archive/Supercompet.htm) and Starling introduction (http://www.ourbetternature.org/starlings.htm)

Terry
07-04-2009, 02:23 PM
I think I have some finches and some sparrows, and a couple Blue Jays.

They sure seem to pick through the seed.
If I knew a bit more about it, I could put out the seed they like.
A lot winds up on the ground.

I will try to take some pics.

I was joking with the first post.

Cass
07-04-2009, 04:37 PM
During the summer birds will be picky about what they eat because of the selection they have during the winter they will eat almost anything because there is not much else...at least in my part of the country...

speedbump
07-06-2009, 07:18 AM
During the summer birds will be picky about what they eat because of the selection they have during the winter they will eat almost anything because there is not much else...at least in my part of the country...
I wonder if that's true in Florida. I had all kinds of birds at my feeder in the winter, but not in the summer, I have two cardinals, a couple of blue jays (that I can do without, they are mean to the other birds) and a couple of Doves. That's about it.

The seed I have; you put it in the feeder, it rains and next thing you know you have grass growing out of the feeder and the seed is starting to ferment. STINK???
I had about 20#'s of seed in a styrofoam cooler that had a hole in it (I found out the hard way) someone squirted water in the hole and I had a fermenting mess. It still smells bad.

When someone finds a good brand of seed that the birds like and that won't grow grass each time it rains, I'm all ears.

Cookie
07-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Bob,

Use cans to store the seed, I use large popcorn cans. Another thing you could do is use less feed at the feeders and just feed the birds more often.

What about rigging up a cover over the bird feeder? The birds love to stay dry, mine wear little yellow rain coats like the Morton Salt girl. :p
I have a friend who chases his Starlings with little homemade nooses, so I told him I made his starlings little robin costumes so he won't know who is who.

Cookie
07-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Is this a Robin or... a Starling in disguise?

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speedbump
07-07-2009, 05:26 AM
Hmmm, I posted in here between your two posts here but must have missed hitting the button.

It's a Starling in disguise. I can tell by it's beak.

Cookie
07-07-2009, 05:54 AM
This is the real beauty I had outside the other day, he just walking in the grass like he was taking a stroll. Mine was just alittle bigger.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/148/371476431_3eb4cbfc64.jpg?v=0 (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTbx68RVNKVtkAAc2jzbkF/SIG=12l4mkmbk/EXP=1247057724/**http%3A//farm1.static.flickr.com/148/371476431_3eb4cbfc64.jpg%3Fv=0)

speedbump
07-07-2009, 07:10 AM
I've got a few of those woodpeckers. I actually have three different kinds. One of them is Hugh.

PEW
07-07-2009, 10:42 AM
I have tried feeding thistle for the gold finches, but for some reason ours just do not like it. Had a tube feeder full of it for a couple of years, just threw it out.

Switched to feed from one of our local feed mills, it has more cracked corn mixed in with various seeds. Big hit with the birds, big hit on the wallet.

Our problem is the blue jays, they chase all the other birds away.

Paul

speedbump
07-07-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm with you Paul, Blue Jays are a very aggressive bird. They take over if you let them. I'm going to use one of Cookies costumes and disguise my cardinals to look like Yellow Tailed Hawks. That should chase the Blue Jay's away.

I have a bunch of cracked corn, maybe I'll try putting that in the feeder with the other stuff. Who knows, it might bring more birds.

Cookie
07-07-2009, 07:28 PM
The trick with feeding blue jays is to feed them first. I put out peanuts, I line them up on the deck railing, along with other things they like. Then, when they are done, they leave and go do whatever they do leaving the others to eat. Then, I feed the smaller birds and no one bothers them. Later comes the squirrels, I put corn out for them in their feeders along with the stuff they like, then I got this rabbit who has been coming around, so I feed him carrots and stuff, nightfall their are the deers, they get corn and apples. Sometimes a stray cat, or the neighbors. In between I feed the kids.

One time I had a pot of homemade gourmet birdie suet cooking and they were looking in it, and said, " mom, is this birdseed with blueberries?" Yeah... he said, " well, I ain't eatin it."

Cass
07-08-2009, 04:59 AM
The finches love thisstle seed and you can get feeders that are only for thisstle...the Jays love oiled sunflower seed...as do most of the other birds...


I think I have some finches and some sparrows, and a couple Blue Jays.

They sure seem to pick through the seed.
If I knew a bit more about it, I could put out the seed they like.
A lot winds up on the ground.

I will try to take some pics.

I was joking with the first post.

chris8796
07-08-2009, 06:30 AM
I've got a few of those woodpeckers. I actually have three different kinds. One of them is Hugh.

You name your woodpeckers? Was he named after Hugh Heffner?

speedbump
07-08-2009, 08:17 AM
You name your woodpeckers? Was he named after Hugh Heffner?
He would have been one of my hero's, lucky guy that he was. But it was actually supposed to mean he was large.

I have always had problems with the word hugh. How do you really spell it? My spell checker capitalized it and seemed to like it.

chris8796
07-08-2009, 08:32 AM
"Huge" , but its funnier to have a large woodpecker named Hugh.

speedbump
07-08-2009, 09:13 AM
Is that it. Is the word spelled Huge? Man, I'm losing it. I used to be a champion speller in school, now the old brain is really starting to go.

OK, I agree, I'm naming him Hugh.

speedbump
07-09-2009, 05:31 AM
That seems to be my problem. I thought Huge (Large) was spelled Hugh. Now after Chris corrected my spelling, I realized I have been spelling it wrong for years. I always thought my spell checker had gone mad.

Cookie
07-10-2009, 03:02 PM
I was just outside Bob, planting some tomatoes and peppers and I sat down my little basil plant for just a second and along came a bird and took it. :confused: I think it went to the same place my gas cap is at.

A tiny bunny was watching me, I was watching him, he was watching me, I was watching him, and I know who is going to win. It ain't goin be me. :D I heard him say, " plant more, plant more." LOL.

speedbump
07-11-2009, 06:09 AM
Do the bunnies eat the herbs? Barb planted a bunch of herbs, Basil, Thyme, Rosemary and Parsley. (I think I will write a song about that) It all took off like crazy and we do have Rabbits. Maybe they just haven't found it yet.

chris8796
07-13-2009, 05:52 AM
Do the bunnies eat the herbs? Barb planted a bunch of herbs, Basil, Thyme, Rosemary and Parsley. (I think I will write a song about that) It all took off like crazy and we do have Rabbits. Maybe they just haven't found it yet.

I've never had a problem with rabbits and herbs. At our house, they really like legumes, like peas and beans. These will not survive at all without fencing. One of the most annoying things we've had rabbits do, is take one bite out of every strawberry as soon as the show any signs of ripening. They do most of there dirty work in the middle of the night.

The only herb problem I've had is squirrels and cats that like catnip. I'd had to protect it until it got a foot high or so. Then it could out grow the attention it got.

speedbump
07-13-2009, 07:14 AM
What are lagumes?

chris8796
07-13-2009, 08:01 AM
Legumes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legume) are a family of plants that are able to fix and utilize nitrogen directly from the air. Well-known legumes include alfalfa, clover, peas, beans, lentils, lupins, mesquite, carob, and peanuts. These plants add nitrogen back to the soil and are often used in crop rotation with plants that can only use nitrogen from the soil.

speedbump
07-13-2009, 10:09 AM
So that's why Farmers rotate their crops and grow things that just get mowed later.

I always wanted to be a Farmer (maybe not in this economy) but life handed me pumps instead.

Cookie
07-15-2009, 08:09 PM
Well, Bob, I learned a long time ago, to make the best of things in life, "if life gives you lemons make lemonade" with you, you can make little wells. :D

speedbump
07-16-2009, 06:07 AM
That's what I need. Little Wells. I would much rather have little money trees!

Cookie
07-16-2009, 07:16 PM
If I had a money tree no matter the size I would share with you. :)
Popcorn came down today while I was sitting out on the deck, so, I came inside and got him some popcorn and fed him some blueberries, he ate them. I don't know if that is normal, but he did. Then I came inside and fed the cat American cheese. My son was laughing. I can hand feed a hawk blue berries and my cat eats cheese, lol.

speedbump
07-17-2009, 05:41 AM
If I had a money tree no matter the size I would share with you.
Your so sweet. You got any seeds for one???

I found out my little three pound dog likes green grapes the other day. Then Barb tells me they are like chocolate to dogs. I didn't know that.

Popcorn is the Hawk, right?

Terry
07-23-2009, 03:50 PM
The birds are going after the Costco stuff now. Go figure.
Though I can't tell if they are sorting through it, or eating it, either way, the feeder is emptying pretty quickly the last two days.

Cookie
07-30-2009, 06:50 AM
Hey, Terry,

You haven't been feeding one of these now have you?
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20090730/sc_livescience/newfoundbirdisbald
Scientists have discovered a rare new bird species with a bald head.

The creature, dubbed the bare-faced bulbul (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/newfoundbirdisbald/32876234/SIG=18ikieh7c/*http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?s=animals&c=news&l=on&pic=090729-bird-02.jpg&cap=The+Bare-faced+Bulbul%2C+a+new+species+discovered+in+Laos%2 C+is+the+only+known+bald+songbird+in+mainland+Asia .+Credit%3A+Woxvold%2FForktail%2FWCS&title=), was found in Laos, and is the only known bald songbird in mainland Asia.

It's also the first time in over 100 years that a new Asian species of bulbul bird has been uncovered.

"To find a new bird species is very rare (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/newfoundbirdisbald/32876234/SIG=12crvslrv/*http://www.livescience.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?gid=48) these days," said Peter Clyne, assistant director for Asia Programs at the Wildlife Conservation Society in New York. "It's not like we're finding new species of birds (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/newfoundbirdisbald/32876234/SIG=118lmjfna/*http://www.livescience.com/topic/birds) every year. This is certainly a highly newsworthy event."

The chrome-domed songbird was discovered by Wildlife Conservation Society scientists Will Duckworth and Rob Timmins and Iain Woxvold of the University of Melbourne as part of a project funded by a mining company, Minerals and Metals Group, that operates in the region.

The bare-faced bulbul lives in the sparse trees and sun-bleached karst limestone of the Laos lowlands.

"Its apparent restriction to rather inhospitable habitat helps to explain why such an extraordinary bird with conspicuous habits and a distinctive call has remained unnoticed for so long (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/newfoundbirdisbald/32876234/SIG=1225gq9bv/*http://www.livescience.com/animals/090116-bird-conservation.html)," Woxvold said.

About the size of a thrush, the new bird has olive green feathers on its back and a light-colored breast. Its large dark eyes dominate its bald pink face.

"Whenever you come across a bird that's bald, it's a prominent characteristic," Clyne told LiveScience. "Usually, but not always, it's thought to play some kind of a role in communication (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/newfoundbirdisbald/32876234/SIG=11sdui35q/*http://www.livescience.com/animals/080826-animal-talk.html) between the sexes."

The researchers describe the bird's call as a "series of whistled, dry bubbling notes."

The researchers describe the new species, whose official name is Passeriformes Pycnonotidae, in the latest issue of the Oriental Bird Club's scientific journal Forktail.

Peanut9199
07-30-2009, 10:54 AM
Do the bunnies eat the herbs? Barb planted a bunch of herbs, Basil, Thyme, Rosemary and Parsley. (I think I will write a song about that) It all took off like crazy and we do have Rabbits. Maybe they just haven't found it yet.

If you cook them up would they taste like "Herb Rabbit"?