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jfls45
06-11-2009, 05:04 AM
I am installing a round shower base and need to elevate it a couple of inches or so to make room for the drain piping. What are some of the ways I can raise up the base without building a square base? I want the shape of the base to match the shape of the arc in this picture

Jeff

FloridaOrange
06-11-2009, 05:42 AM
Round pavers and a dremel. :D

kingsotall
06-11-2009, 08:15 AM
Most excellent advice!

MACPLUMB 777
06-11-2009, 08:25 AM
If you would just get a professional plumber to make a legal piping connection

you would not have to mickey mouse the plumbing and make a platform

Redwood
06-11-2009, 08:29 AM
If you would just get a professional plumber to make a legal piping connection

you would not have to mickey mouse the plumbing and make a platform

Zackley:eek:

Cookie
06-11-2009, 08:35 AM
This works too.
I know someone who has taken a garden hose connected to their laundry sink, hung it up with a coat hanger, wrapped a hula hoop around it all with curtain, and it extends over the main drain in the basement, and that is their shower.

Dunbar Plumbing
06-11-2009, 09:00 AM
I am installing a round shower base and need to elevate it a couple of inches or so to make room for the drain piping. What are some of the ways I can raise up the base without building a square base? I want the shape of the base to match the shape of the arc in this picture

Jeff




Dude,


You are suffering and these posts are cries for help.

jfls45
06-11-2009, 09:17 AM
I am not accepting anymore replies that are not serious in nature. Please only post serious answers to my questions.

Jeff

Dunbar Plumbing
06-11-2009, 09:42 AM
I am not accepting anymore replies that are not serious in nature. Please only post serious answers to my questions.

Jeff



http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/l/lol_monkey-12920.jpg



Okay me behaves now!

jadnashua
06-11-2009, 11:02 AM
What you are trying to do is always going to look like a kludge, and is likely to come back to bite you when you ever decide to sell the house, if not before. You should really consider doing it right now, than having to pay later.
You could just make yourself a form and pour concrete. You'll have to figure out a way to make the height look good, getting a curved baseboard out of wood would be subject to moisture damage and not that easy. Doing it in tile would give you a tough edge to the base of the unit - you'd have to use small tile to conform to the curve. Not too many good options, unless you do it right.

doc5md
06-11-2009, 12:39 PM
If you are dead-set in building up a base, here's what I would do.
Put shower pan on floor. trace it out. remove shower pan. cut lumber (2x4 or 2x whatever height you need) to extend from the wall to short of the line by a measurement you will have to calculate from the materials below that you will pick out. I'd run lots of pieces and when you are done you will have roughly the outer contour. on the ends, I'd use something flexible like 3/8ths ply, followed by ditra, follows by a very small tile on a mes backing that will deal well with the curves.

jadnashua
06-11-2009, 12:45 PM
followed by ditra

Ditra might work, but the manufacturer specifies a minimum of 2x2" tiles. While not on a floor, if you knocked it just right, you'd possibly break it. RedGard would work to waterproof things.

Still, better to do the plumbing right in the first place...

Redwood
06-11-2009, 01:17 PM
I am not accepting anymore replies that are not serious in nature. Please only post serious answers to my questions.

Jeff

Yea Jeff,
And us pro's are only accepting serious questions....

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f2/Redwood39/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

Now quit huffing and get real!

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doc5md
06-11-2009, 01:57 PM
Ditra might work, but the manufacturer specifies a minimum of 2x2" tiles. While not on a floor, if you knocked it just right, you'd possibly break it. RedGard would work to waterproof things.

Still, better to do the plumbing right in the first place...

Ah yes, forgot about that. redgard is probably a better idea.
Quinn

Terry
06-11-2009, 05:51 PM
Don't forget to buy more home insurance for that shower.

Have you ever used a tub, or a shower that was built up?

I have.
It's one long step down when you get out.

kingsotall
06-11-2009, 06:52 PM
That first step is a doozy!

jadnashua
06-11-2009, 09:30 PM
I was in a (cheap) old hotel in London one time where they did this...almost killed myself getting out, and I was only there a week.

Some people will insist on a lousy workaround because they think it will save time, then have troubles forever after. Guess it's like beating a dead horse...can't get it to move at all...

Dunbar Plumbing
06-11-2009, 11:22 PM
Don't forget to buy more home insurance for that shower.

Have you ever used a tub, or a shower that was built up?

I have.
It's one long step down when you get out.



And very dangerous on a wet surface. Doesn't matter what you weigh.


Anytime I see a built up bathroom off the original floor,

I think of FAIL.

jeffc
06-12-2009, 07:40 AM
Jeff'

You have had professional plumbers on two diffrent sites give you very good advice about how to deal with the shower drain problem. You must jack up the concrete and tie your shower into the existing drain line. Thiis is the only way to avoid any problems and possible dangerous repercussions from trying to do it cheap. You have also been very insulting to the people who are trying to help you. We are licensed, skilled tradesmen who are required to update and maintain our skill level in order to maintain our licenses. We work to make a living for ourselves and our families. Giving you free advice is not making us a living, but it is protecting you from yourself. My advice to you is that you take and heed all the good advice about the drain routing and stop offending these people who's help you may need in the future

jfls45
06-12-2009, 08:16 AM
Come on now, I was getting replies that are making jokes of me and my plumbing skills, not once did I make a joke of any of your plumbing skills. I have actually learned quite a bit of information from you. but I have a problem. the cast iron piping goes to a gray water drain that I believe, correct me if I am wrong, does not allow for a shower hook up. So just hooking up to this thing is illegal. My other alternative is to redo all the plumbing which I can't afford and hook up to the septic system.

Not sure what I should do in this case.

Redwood
06-12-2009, 08:25 AM
Run gravity lines to a sanitary drain if grade permits.
If grade does not permit then...
Install an ejector pit.

jeffc
06-12-2009, 09:37 AM
Run gravity lines to a sanitary drain if grade permits.
If grade does not permit then...
Install an ejector pit.

If you have the space near the shower then install a pump pit. A recommendation is the Liberty 370 series. The package comes complete and is easy to install. The discharge line needs to enter the sewer system fron the top of the pipe

pmaru77
06-12-2009, 12:08 PM
I think you should sell your trailer and move into a condo. Problem solved!

Redwood
06-12-2009, 12:32 PM
I think you should sell your trailer and move into a condo. Problem solved!

DOHHHH! :eek:

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jadnashua
06-12-2009, 12:36 PM
If where the previous drain was connected was legal (although not done properly), then tapping in with a proper trap, vent, and arm should also be doable. Where did the greywater issue come up, and how does your jurisdiction define it?

Redwood
06-12-2009, 12:43 PM
Dude, Lighten up

this is all in good fun

Jeff

Yep, It sure is...

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jadnashua If where the previous drain was connected was legal (although not done properly), then tapping in with a proper trap, vent, and arm should also be doable. Where did the greywater issue come up, and how does your jurisdiction define it?

This issue was raised in one of the other forums he posted in...
http://www.***************.com/31255-post17.html