Wall Hydrant vacuum breaker repair - help!

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Wall Hydrant/sillcock repair - help! vacuum breakers and plastic pipe

Hey all, looking for some help with a project that's driving me nuts...

Just bought a new house, and one of the outdoor wall hydrant faucets is had a broken anti-siphon device in it. I did some searching and found that it looks EXACTLY like the Mansfield 630-7500

http://www.griggindustries.com/servlet/the-1391/Mansfield-Wall-Hydrant-Vacuum/Detail

OR the Nibco "Model 90":
http://www.griggindustries.com/servlet/the-1347/Nibco-Model-90-Anti-dsh-Siphon/Detail

I bought the Mansfield one and brought it home...and it's SLIGHTLY TOO BIG! It won't quite fit in the whole on top of the hydrant. Otherwise, it looks almost exactly the same.

I can find no other markings that would identify what this is...the faucet says:

Flo-rite
Anti-Siphon
IAPMO
ASSE-1019A

I'll post some pictures if that could possibly help anyone. Can anyone point me in a direction on this one? Thanks!
 
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In 95% of the cases, a faucet labled "Flo-rite" will not inchange with parts from ANY other manufacturer, unless that company made the faucet and rebranded it as "Flo-Rite".
 
So is Flo-rite a manufacturer? Is there any way to get a replacement part? I can't find anything about them online.
 
Can anyone confirm that there is no way to get a replacement part for this faucet? I can't find anything. Is my only option to pay a plumber to replace the entire hydrant?

This seems like a poorly designed system--I should be able to replace the small piece that broke.
 
Removal of the old and replacement with a new one is simpler than repairing the old one. That may be a little overstated, but it's a screw one out and screw the other one in deal. You do have to work in a crawl space and having a helping hand is nice, but not truly necessary.
 
Flo-rite must be someone's branded import product, probably made in China or Taiwan. Typically parts for these are not available.

When you replace it, make sure to replace it with a valve that is supported by a manufacturer, Prier, Woodford or Arrowhead are good choices.
 
Flo-rite

It is not a poorly designed system, it is a poorly designed distribution system. Companies buy valves like these because they are cheap and can be sold inexpensively. BUT the companies are in the business of making valves not supplying parts and the buyers are only concerned about NOW, not what will happen five years down the road, when Flo-rite might be out of business, or the store no longer does business with them, or they decided there was a way to make the valve cheaper and the parts no longer fit the original purchase.
 
Gary Swart said:
Removal of the old and replacement with a new one is simpler than repairing the old one. That may be a little overstated, but it's a screw one out and screw the other one in deal.
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Or may be sweat solder on or most likely in a new house there is a proprietary PEX fitting sweated on then transitioned to PEX.
 
Gary Swart said:
Removal of the old and replacement with a new one is simpler than repairing the old one. That may be a little overstated, but it's a screw one out and screw the other one in deal. You do have to work in a crawl space and having a helping hand is nice, but not truly necessary.
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kingsotall said:
Or may be sweat solder on or most likely in a new house there is a proprietary PEX fitting sweated on then transitioned to PEX.
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In which case I would need to call a plumber, as I don't have a soldering iron...how much should a simple replacement like this cost me?
 
Pricing depends on the individual doing the work. Ask your buddies who they use for plumbing. They won't be recommending someone not worth his weight in GOLD.
 
Sillcock connected to plastic pipe

Hi,

I took a picture of where the hydrant joins the water pipe under the house.

Can anyone tell me how to go about replacing this sillcock? Is it as simple as buying a new one (that's the right length) and just screwing it into this plastic thing?

I guess my pipes aren't copper...I think they're called "plex." Is there any complication, or is it just screwing a new one in?

Thanks for your help.

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That bibb will just screw off and on. The pipes are CPVC and in your pic it seems that that connection could be suspect. (See how that connection's all tweaked¿ It may be some type of swivel joint but who knows.) Check out the area you have pictured for leaks after replacing the bibb.
 
Unless it's an optical illusion, it looks like that connection is under some stress since the two pieces don't align very well. You may need to hold that plastic piece while you either unscrew the hose bib, or just turn the plastic piece itself while holding the hose bib.
 
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